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Old 27 Aug 2017, 09:55 (Ref:3761885)   #201
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I just want to be certain that this is highly likely to be happening in 2018
Only got about 10 minutes before its confirmed, it appears.......

But 2018 for a two year deal is my understanding.....
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:26 (Ref:3761894)   #202
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:26 (Ref:3761895)   #203
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:27 (Ref:3761896)   #204
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That is a brilliant addition to the championship. Well played, Handy!
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:29 (Ref:3761897)   #205
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Like it!

Sounds like one car?

And maybe the Avensis goes to Speedworks for a two car Toyota manufacturer entry?
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 10:34 (Ref:3761901)   #206
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Alfa Romeo back in the Championship

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Hopefully it's more 1994 155 than 2001 147!
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 11:16 (Ref:3761912)   #207
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Great to see Alfa back, but why don't take Giulia?
No experience with RWD cars?
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 11:26 (Ref:3761919)   #208
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Great to see Alfa back, but why don't take Giulia?
No experience with RWD cars?
Too long, I think. They mentioned the Giulietta had the perfect wheelbase for the BTCC.
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 11:28 (Ref:3761920)   #209
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Well I picked up the Alfa news in Rockingham thread and assumed the RWD Giulia saloon.

Then I saw the cars nose on btcc.net (before looking at captions) and thought Austin. Back in RWD!

Genuinely surprised they've gone with the aged Giulietta (I first drove a prototype in 2009!) but as Dynamics/ Honda have proven time and time again a well engineered short wheelbase FWD hatch can be a very successful recipe.

Good luck to Rob and the boys at Handy. Seems I am switching my allegiances in BTCC!
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 11:30 (Ref:3761921)   #210
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Length probably isn't the reason. The Giulia is BMW 3 series size - a wee bit shorter than the Subaru Levorg and the Toyota Avensis.
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 11:43 (Ref:3761923)   #211
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http://handymotorsport.co.uk/news/le...motorsport.php

This was the deal that I'd heard about last year, of course, but the numbers just couldn't work then, apparently. So pleased it is on track now - we (the UK Alfa Romeo Owners Club) will be supporting this venture with great enthusiasm
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Old 27 Aug 2017, 16:37 (Ref:3762032)   #212
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 07:03 (Ref:3762235)   #213
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I just saw that Alfa need to use 2-litre engine
''The choice of engine has to be 2-litre, and from the brand's 'family'''
Giulietta only have 1.75 as it's most powerful engine, and 2.0 from Giulia and Stelvio is mounted longitudinal.
Will the BTCC let them use 1.75 engine like TCR Alfa or they will manage to squeeze 2.0 by that chassis regulations (bright ideas as A4 RWD)?
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 07:32 (Ref:3762243)   #214
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TOCA engine probably.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 08:05 (Ref:3762248)   #215
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Can they bore the 1.75?
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 09:47 (Ref:3762272)   #216
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Should be able to use something else from the FIAT family if it suits. The Welch guys were using an Mitsubishi Evo derived engine in the Proton under that rule!

Odds on it'll be the TOCA engine to start with.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 10:13 (Ref:3762279)   #217
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Can they bore the 1.75?
Get Plato to talk to it?
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 10:40 (Ref:3762286)   #218
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I just saw that Alfa need to use 2-litre engine
''The choice of engine has to be 2-litre, and from the brand's 'family'''
Giulietta only have 1.75 as it's most powerful engine, and 2.0 from Giulia and Stelvio is mounted longitudinal.
Will the BTCC let them use 1.75 engine like TCR Alfa or they will manage to squeeze 2.0 by that chassis regulations (bright ideas as A4 RWD)?
They can use any 2.0L engine from the following, mounted in the same orientation as the original car:

Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Fiat Professional, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Ram Trucks and SRT.

So they have the 2.0L Dodge Avenger/Chrysler Sebring as an example.

The list of options is limited though as most of their American engines are too big, and most of their European ones are too small.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 11:53 (Ref:3762316)   #219
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Length probably isn't the reason. The Giulia is BMW 3 series size - a wee bit shorter than the Subaru Levorg and the Toyota Avensis.
"The Giulia is a fantastic car, I have one on the road at the moment but its wheel base would be far longer than anything else on the grid." - Rob Austin on Twitter
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 13:32 (Ref:3762334)   #220
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I just saw that Alfa need to use 2-litre engine
''The choice of engine has to be 2-litre, and from the brand's 'family'''
Giulietta only have 1.75 as it's most powerful engine, and 2.0 from Giulia and Stelvio is mounted longitudinal.
Will the BTCC let them use 1.75 engine like TCR Alfa or they will manage to squeeze 2.0 by that chassis regulations (bright ideas as A4 RWD)?
they could use 2.0 from Guilia and position it transverse in Guilietta.
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 15:08 (Ref:3762351)   #221
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I wouldn't waste your head space figuring out what engine it will be. The money from the dealers won't be enough for an engine development project. Rob Austin's already been stung with that before trying and failing to develop an Audi S3 based engine for the A4.

It'll be a TOCA engine..... they already have one to use from the Toyota
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Old 28 Aug 2017, 18:52 (Ref:3762409)   #222
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I wouldn't waste your head space figuring out what engine it will be. The money from the dealers won't be enough for an engine development project. Rob Austin's already been stung with that before trying and failing to develop an Audi S3 based engine for the A4.

It'll be a TOCA engine..... they already have one to use from the Toyota
I'm sure I read in one of the many articles that they'll be using the TOCA engine!
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I just saw that Alfa need to use 2-litre engine
''The choice of engine has to be 2-litre, and from the brand's 'family'''
Giulietta only have 1.75 as it's most powerful engine, and 2.0 from Giulia and Stelvio is mounted longitudinal.
Will the BTCC let them use 1.75 engine like TCR Alfa or they will manage to squeeze 2.0 by that chassis regulations (bright ideas as A4 RWD)?
TCR car switched to the 2.0 for this year.
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I'm sure I read in one of the many articles that they'll be using the TOCA engine!
Alfa purists will roll in their graves.
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I understand that Rob Austin will be the only Alfa driver, am I right?
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