Why did we chose to race historics - Page 2

midgetman · 27 Oct 2010, 17:42 (Ref:2781218)

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Originally Posted by skentellytubby

That reminds me of my very first race. It was Snetterton with the CSCC and my fuel tank had cracked ever so slightly during practice along the top edge.

My very experienced team mate told me we could get it 'repaired' with some ally strip and some epoxy resin (and an acoustic damper in the form of a Pipercross foam tank taped to the side of the fuel tank) and we'd would be all good for the race. We had the ally strip and just needed to borrow some epoxy from a friendly competitor.

We had an MGB tank do that once, leaking fuel on the grid. Rushed off, Araldited on a 5p piece (back in the old days, when 5ps were a decent size LOL), sprayed it with "coagulent paint" (ahem) and were back on the grid for the next race. Scrute said "I don't want to know what you've done..."

That 5p piece was still on the car when we sold it. Probably doubled its value if truth be known.......try and do that with a "modern", another feather in the cap for historics.

delta · 27 Oct 2010, 19:41 (Ref:2781283)

I hope Jim still keeps the Galaxie.Mustang is going to add to his collection.

grantp · 27 Oct 2010, 20:17 (Ref:2781307)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

We had an MGB tank do that once, leaking fuel on the grid. Rushed off, Araldited on a 5p piece (back in the old days, when 5ps were a decent size LOL), sprayed it with "coagulent paint" (ahem) and were back on the grid for the next race. Scrute said "I don't want to know what you've done..."

That 5p piece was still on the car when we sold it. Probably doubled its value if truth be known.......try and do that with a "modern", another feather in the cap for historics.

Interesting.

One I heard a few weeks ago, when a neighbour had an urgent need to fix a weeping seam on a bike tank, was to use a bar of soap and 'mould' some onto the section that is leaking. The suggestion came from a former AA (or RAC, not sure which) patrolman. He said he had, many years ago, made such a temporary repair on one of his own cars that, like the 5p piece fix, was still in place some years later when he sold the car.

Anyone else heard of that?

esper · 27 Oct 2010, 21:07 (Ref:2781334)

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Originally Posted by grantp

Interesting.

a weeping seam on a bike tank, was to use a bar of soap and 'mould' some onto the section that is leaking. , like the 5p piece fix, was still in place some years later when he sold the car.

Anyone else heard of that?

half of Africa keeps fueltanks alive witht his technique. its like smearing butter (dutch butter) on your windshield when your wipers dont work, just try it once!!!!!!!!

esper · 27 Oct 2010, 21:11 (Ref:2781336)

oh wrong thread, for repairing fueltanks, Why racing historics ? Can you still buy a descent beautifull rear wheel driven real racecar these days??? So thats why I stick with the classic ones. And then the people are way nicer allthough many of them get to serious about their hobby these days!

skentellytubby · 27 Oct 2010, 21:14 (Ref:2781339)

When I said a small crack, it let 30 litres of fuel go on my first ever competitive lap, most of it on the exhaust according to the marshalls. Not a great start.....very disturbing for everyone, not least the driver!!

The pit marshalls were very very interested when I came in. Some how we cobbled three laps to qualify and ran out of fuel on the fourth. As the crack was at the top of the tank no fuel came out once we'd got to about 10 litres.

However, no one asked any questions as to how we "repaired" it. I was quite impressed with the acoustic damper though!!! It worked and we all went home happy. And with our eyebrows in place

Anyway...back on topic. Was using it as an example of how friendly/pragmatic histeric racers are as apposed to some modern racers.

grantp · 27 Oct 2010, 21:44 (Ref:2781353)

I once owned a minivan with a similar problem. Nothing leaked out as long as I only half filled it.

More on topic, I stumbled across a couple of videos yesterday of US historic racers talking about why they were involved. Seemed to be offering similar sentiments.

The 'Legends' linked from here - there is probably a better and more permanent link but the PC I am on at the moment as a FLash free zone and I can't see where the links lead after the 'What's new' page.

http://www.leechapmanracing.com/what's_new.htm

Nick JM · 27 Oct 2010, 22:00 (Ref:2781365)

[QUOTE=delta;2781283]I hope Jim still keeps the Galaxie.

So do I. The noise when that behmoth starts up with unsilenced exhausts is akin to Armeggedon ...

**John Turner** · 28 Oct 2010, 08:34 (Ref:2781515)

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Originally Posted by esper

oh wrong thread, for repairing fueltanks, Why racing historics ? Can you still buy a descent beautifull rear wheel driven real racecar these days???

Dodge Vipers, old and new, Corvette CR5s and 6, old Panoz, DBRS9 and my all time favourite from the modern period, DBR9. All the latest Ginettas are front engined RWD, I believe. All BMW racing saloons from recent years are also. So, yes, you can, but of course, they do have plenty of driver aids but then cornering speeds do mean that you need strong necks! The GT1 - 3 cars are definitely classics of the future.

**John Turner** · 28 Oct 2010, 08:36 (Ref:2781518)

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Originally Posted by delta

I hope Jim still keeps the Galaxie.

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Originally Posted by Nick JM

So do I. The noise when that behmoth starts up with unsilenced exhausts is akin to Armeggedon ...

Agreed!

Al Weyman · 28 Oct 2010, 08:49 (Ref:2781522)

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Originally Posted by John Turner

Millions of Mustangs about. Get something different.

Agreed and Falcon may look like a small Galaxy but there is a world of difference especially as they can be legally (dont ask me how thats what give me the pip with this game) lighter than a Mustang due to some period fiddling by Ford with lightweight panels etc.

skentellytubby · 28 Oct 2010, 12:42 (Ref:2781629)

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Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Agreed and Falcon may look like a small Galaxy but there is a world of difference especially as they can be legally (dont ask me how thats what give me the pip with this game) lighter than a Mustang due to some period fiddling by Ford with lightweight panels etc.

Am I right in thinking Falcons handle "less friendly" than a Mustang? I can't think how they are different underneath the bodywork so I'm not sure why that's the case. They were homolgated with fibreglass bits weren't they?

Am I right in thinking Ben Shuckburgh is selling his?

Sorry, this is turning into the Mustang v Falcon v Galaxie thread now.

Any other people want to tell us their reasons for choosing histos rather than other forms of racing?

Nick JM · 28 Oct 2010, 12:52 (Ref:2781635)

Yes - better beer at historic meetings generally. Proper beer that is, none of this Europish

SAMD · 28 Oct 2010, 12:58 (Ref:2781639)

Well my 2d's worth is this,
Racing FF1600 in Ireland, anywhere really, but Ireland in particular is very difficult because it is so competitive. If you want to be at the front end you have to be totally commited, ie; money, time and effort. So I decided that one off events were the way to go, hence my interest in the historics, My stuff isn't very old.., RF 86, 1979 Sports 2000 and a '73 clubmans car. But my desires should be satisfied with a run out at Kirkistown and then a one off event somewhere. Time will tell.

Moosehead · 28 Oct 2010, 15:01 (Ref:2781680)

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Originally Posted by skentellytubby

Am I right in thinking Falcons handle "less friendly" than a Mustang? I can't think how they are different underneath the bodywork so I'm not sure why that's the case. They were homolgated with fibreglass bits weren't they?

There are some differences in front suspension (well there was when they were standard

), also Falcons have to run thinner wheels.

delta · 28 Oct 2010, 19:02 (Ref:2781778)

If Jim gets a Mustang im gonna ket a picture of a Dodge Charger to stick on the rear view mirror.

Al Weyman · 28 Oct 2010, 19:17 (Ref:2781784)

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Originally Posted by Moosehead

There are some differences in front suspension (well there was when they were standard

), also Falcons have to run thinner wheels.

I thought it was the same chassis?

zefarelly · 28 Oct 2010, 19:36 (Ref:2781797)

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Originally Posted by John Turner

Millions of Mustangs about. Get something different.

much easier to be a sheep than a shepherd

Al Weyman · 28 Oct 2010, 19:46 (Ref:2781799)

Move that silly 66 date forward a year or two and no mustangs would come out and play as they simply wouldnt hold a candle to a 1st Gen Camaro.

**John Turner** · 28 Oct 2010, 20:33 (Ref:2781810)

No, they'd all buy Camaros; back to square one!

Al Weyman · 28 Oct 2010, 20:35 (Ref:2781811)

Ha ha you are right, they may save emselves a few quid though!

terence · 29 Oct 2010, 18:16 (Ref:2782226)

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Originally Posted by delta

If Jim gets a Mustang im gonna ket a picture of a Dodge Charger to stick on the rear view mirror.

Black one I hope Iain,not a shot of a massive fireball ?

delta · 29 Oct 2010, 19:23 (Ref:2782264)

The best shot in the film "bullet" is when the Mustang apears in the Dodge Charger's mirror.Just brilliant.

rogerwills · 29 Oct 2010, 20:01 (Ref:2782279)

Why did we chose to race historics?

Isn't it because none of us are good enough to race moderns?

Nick JM · 29 Oct 2010, 20:55 (Ref:2782307)

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Originally Posted by rogerwills

Why did we chose to race historics?

Isn't it because none of us are good enough to race moderns?

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