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Old 25 Mar 2019, 18:31 (Ref:3893334)   #4826
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Presumably that doesn't count as a driver change as it happened pre media day?

(For TBL purposes I mean... obviously it is a change of driver)
as official entry list hasnt been issued yet (thats on media day usually) so it cant be a driver change
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 18:47 (Ref:3893337)   #4827
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as official entry list hasnt been issued yet (thats on media day usually) so it cant be a driver change
Registration deadline was 1st of March, with competitors notified by 8th.

'Drivers who are accepted into the Championship after Friday, March 8th, 2019, will be classified as Late Registrations and may incur a 20% entry fee surcharge at the Administrator’s discretion.

Any subsequent change to an Entrant's registered car, or driver, during the course of the Championship is by application to and approval of the Administrator.'



So it's a Late Registration at least, but may be permitted by Gow as a non-change for TBL purposes.
As it was after 8th March, then Goff might also be carrying 45kgs at R1....
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 19:00 (Ref:3893338)   #4828
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He's off his head driving that box of bolts.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 19:10 (Ref:3893340)   #4829
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Even I'm surprised by this.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 19:35 (Ref:3893346)   #4830
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 20:06 (Ref:3893349)   #4831
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Pleased to have Jack back on the grid but he deserves better than to be running around at the back in that VW junker. Who is sponsoring Jack now that couldnt come up with the money when he was looking seriously?

I hope Team Hard have actually put a bit more effort in to preparation than they normally do.
i am thinking Team Hard will now finish the season with a completely different line up to they start with
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 20:11 (Ref:3893350)   #4832
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Pleased to have Jack back on the grid but he deserves better than to be running around at the back in that VW junker. Who is sponsoring Jack now that couldnt come up with the money when he was looking seriously?

I hope Team Hard have actually put a bit more effort in to preparation than they normally do.
i am thinking Team Hard will now finish the season with a completely different line up to they start with
Perhaps they've taken a gamble on him having 75% of the budget and hope he'll be able to get the rest as the year goes on. Or they'll pop Kieran Gallagher in the car at Knockhill again....
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 20:27 (Ref:3893353)   #4833
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So it's a Late Registration at least, but may be permitted by Gow as a non-change for TBL purposes.
As it was after 8th March, then Goff might also be carrying 45kgs at R1....
I suspect he will be let off the late entry ballast. Everything in TOCA's rule book is subject to digression. The rules is still there as a throwback to when teams would bring in a ringer at the end of the season. I don't recall Mat Jackson having to carry late enter ballast a few years ago when he wasn't signed until the morning of Media Day.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 20:31 (Ref:3893354)   #4834
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So big shame for Bushell, but at least he’s being replaced by a talented race winner. Miracles do happen, so welcome back Goff
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 21:01 (Ref:3893360)   #4835
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I don't get it. 1 driver had the required budget, the other didn't, now all of a sudden it's the other way around. I'm a massive fan of Goff but surely it would have made far more sense for Tony to have extracted a bit more cash from his team's sponsors for Bushell.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 21:31 (Ref:3893365)   #4836
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I hear one of Bushells backers backed out leaving him high and dry.

Goff had the folding: remember Tony had all his seats filled very early on and he charges peanuts compared with most other teams, hence Goff being able to fund the seat.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 21:40 (Ref:3893366)   #4837
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I don't want to be rude or anything, but let's think this way:
Bushell probably had more budget than Goff, or the team raised partially the budged for him. As soon as they found out, that Goff might be interested in joining, the negotiations began. At this point everyone knows in which direction I'm going with the idea.

Only shame is that not Boardley or Crees was replaced. We can like them, but we all know both will be complete backmarkers. But as money talks...
I'm still hoping for a wise made contract, as at Team HARD things can change at every minute, so Bushell can return if somebody leaves mid season. Only if he is not certain now to do a full Clio season as things went this way round.

Anyway, happy about Goff returning. This is the situation for which we have a perfect expression in Hungarian. Translated would come: One of my eyes is crying, the other one smiling.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 22:07 (Ref:3893369)   #4838
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Goff back in BTCC in HARD - yes, please.
Bushell out of HARD and BTCC - no, thanks.
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 22:08 (Ref:3893370)   #4839
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Only shame is that not Boardley or Crees was replaced. We can like them, but we all know both will be complete backmarkers.
Actually, I don't think Boardley will do too badly (assuming they've sorted those CCs).

A 2nd overall in the Ginetta's last year is better than Ollie Jackson, Will Burns and Hunter Abbott had done in their years in the championship - certainly not a direct comparison between them but that seems to show he's a good enough driver.

Feel bad for poor Crees though - he seems like such a lovely guy and from what I've seen he's so passionate about the BTCC, but unfortunately I think he'll be really out of his depth. Hope to be proved wrong!

On the brighter side, HARD have the potential to be in the mix with Goff and Thompson, and I think they must've tested more than any other team this winter so hopefully the cars have been improved!
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Old 25 Mar 2019, 22:10 (Ref:3893371)   #4840
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I don't want to be rude or anything, but let's think this way:
Bushell probably had more budget than Goff, or the team raised partially the budged for him. As soon as they found out, that Goff might be interested in joining, the negotiations began. At this point everyone knows in which direction I'm going with the idea.
I seriously doubt that's what happened. Goff has been trying to put together a deal since Eurotech left at the end of last season. No reason for Hard to wait until this late to boot out Bushell if that was the case.

More likely is that Bushell genuinely has a lack of budget and had to stand down. Hard were left with a choice of either losing a TBL or take a punt on someone else with a partial budget. As mentioned earlier, Goff probably doesn't have the budget for a full season but he is a decent driver with a good chance of some decent results. The team will be hoping they can pick up more sponsors later in the year on the strength of that. If not, then expect someone else to be bought in mid-season.
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 07:55 (Ref:3893422)   #4841
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I seriously doubt that's what happened. Goff has been trying to put together a deal since Eurotech left at the end of last season. No reason for Hard to wait until this late to boot out Bushell if that was the case.

More likely is that Bushell genuinely has a lack of budget and had to stand down. Hard were left with a choice of either losing a TBL or take a punt on someone else with a partial budget. As mentioned earlier, Goff probably doesn't have the budget for a full season but he is a decent driver with a good chance of some decent results. The team will be hoping they can pick up more sponsors later in the year on the strength of that. If not, then expect someone else to be bought in mid-season.
Team HARD are one of the cheapest seats, so Goff may have been short on budget for a good number of seats down the pit lane, but may well have enough for Tony. Team HARD would of been off radar fir Jack as all the drivers were signed so early, until a Bushell lost one of his bigger sponsors. As much as I’m not a fan of Mr Gilham, I don’t think there has been anything other than bad luck on Bushell’s part.
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:06 (Ref:3893423)   #4842
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BMW liveries a bit of a mess...

Also intresting to note the lack of front wing intake(?) on the 3 series.
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:10 (Ref:3893424)   #4843
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Also intresting to note the lack of front wing intake(?) on the 3 series.
you mean front wing exit

i imagine thats because the 3 series is such a wide car that the front wings wouldnt have needed to be widened as much as others so didnt need to have that exit
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:11 (Ref:3893425)   #4844
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BMW liveries a bit of a mess...

Also intresting to note the lack of front wing intake(?) on the 3 series.
https://mailchi.mp/e5ed11b3db36/new-...-of-btcc-debut
Basically the same as last year.

Note the lack of Kwik-Fit logos on the number plate, for those that seem shocked about that sort of thing
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:12 (Ref:3893426)   #4845
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Personally do not like that 3 series at all thought it would look a lot meaner than it does, bit of a disappointment. Also looks way better in Pirtek livery than BMW livery just like the 1 series did.
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:16 (Ref:3893427)   #4846
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Note the lack of Kwik-Fit logos on the number plate, for those that seem shocked about that sort of thing
kwik fit logos on the car on the official site.
so bmw just putting their own model nameplates on for their own publicity pics.

http://www.btcc.net/2019/03/26/wraps...tcc-contender/
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:27 (Ref:3893432)   #4847
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There's a significant investment from BMW here, three new cars based on latest models and three talented drivers. What's not to like?

As soon as it wins, you'll like the looks.
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:37 (Ref:3893434)   #4848
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Not a bad look on the new BMW, although to me it looks like the old car shape, just a bit longer
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Old 26 Mar 2019, 08:44 (Ref:3893438)   #4849
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Well personally I haven't liked the appearance of any BMW of the last 20 years. However, that's not relevant as BTCC isn't the motor car equivalent of Miss World. For the record I think the Corolla is ugly too, but the race car manages to improve on the awkward over-styled roadcar.

I'm sure with WSRs experience, designers, engineers and drivers they'll be competitive sooner rather than later and that is what's relevant.
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Sadly I think most BMWs in general look quite boat-ish now, they are all so big, but that’s how road cars have gone, everything has to get “bigger” (for some reason). The new 2019 VW Polo is almost as big as the first generation Golf.

Having said that, I don't think the NGTC 3 series looks as bad as I feared, however I think its a shame the 2 series wasn't eligible as thats the perfect size for a touring car.
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