BTCC Races 16, 17 & 18 - Snetterton, Norfolk - 2nd August 2009 - Page 2

**touringlegend** · 2 Aug 2009, 11:12 (Ref:2513831)

There will be those who say ah Plato old tricks again but he was about 3/4 alongside Turkington...racing incident!

On the other hand Jordan and Neal appear to have lost their minds today. Jordan was simply overdriving the Vectra and the amount of weaving he was doing - I was expecting him to end up spearing off into the barriers.

Was good to see the onboards from Colin "Twitchy Toes" Turkington.

**BertMk2** · 2 Aug 2009, 11:21 (Ref:2513833)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

There will be those who say ah Plato old tricks again but he was about 3/4 alongside Turkington...racing incident!

I ran out of sympathy for Plato some time ago - he's experienced enough to avoid incidents like that. He gets involved in far too many "racing incidents" and I couldn't help but laugh when he got punted off only seconds later.

**touringlegend** · 2 Aug 2009, 11:23 (Ref:2513834)

He did more or less admit it was an optimistic move but I agree with his reasons behind it. Turkington would have been gone given the chance.

Wonder what Paul O'Neill can manage in Race 2, he'll be a bit heavier but that cars going good.

brands · 2 Aug 2009, 11:25 (Ref:2513835)

I haven't laughed so much in ages.

Was there a clean pass all race ? or were they all nerfed out of the way.
Jordan was weaving so much he eventually threw himself off the track

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 11:35 (Ref:2513840)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Was good to see the onboards from Colin "Twitchy Toes" Turkington.

I really enjoyed that too. Seeing Turks heel-and-toe so expertly reminded me that driving racing cars isn't as easy as it sometimes looks.

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 11:37 (Ref:2513841)

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Originally Posted by brands

Was there a clean pass all race ?

Thompson's move on Adam (or was it Jackson?) at Russell was superb and spotlessly clean. Sadly his gearbox let him down almost immediately afterwards.

redshoes · 2 Aug 2009, 11:37 (Ref:2513842)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Wonder what Paul O'Neill can manage in Race 2, he'll be a bit heavier but that cars going good.

He's got 3 BMWs behind him so you know he'll get mugged at the start.

Thompson and Plato are starting from the back, should be interesting to see how they progress. I wouldn't rules out either of them for 8th and a reverse pole for race 3.

Super Hans · 2 Aug 2009, 11:38 (Ref:2513843)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Wonder what Paul O'Neill can manage in Race 2, he'll be a bit heavier but that cars going good.

Surely he'll be lighter after shedding all those tears! God bless 'im. He put in a great drive.

Hepatic · 2 Aug 2009, 12:20 (Ref:2513881)

bah, anyone else having issues with tsl timing? the link from their site opens but gives the clio race from 12pm and the link via btcc has jumped to the G50s which hasn't started yet :/

missed the 1st race due to chatting to a copper :S

Craner Curves · 2 Aug 2009, 12:39 (Ref:2513899)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

He did more or less admit it was an optimistic move but I agree with his reasons behind it. Turkington would have been gone given the chance.

It's not Turkington's fault he has a fast car, Plato should just deal with it properly, rather than doing stuff like that. I knew that would happen. Glad he retired from that race, justice has been done. If only he could show some class and drive like Giovanardi, now that man knows how to race. He's very fair and will only use force if it's been used against him, otherwise he'll settle for the points.

richrad smith · 2 Aug 2009, 12:45 (Ref:2513910)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

Surely he'll be lighter after shedding all those tears! God bless 'im.

Paul shedding tears, as he did earlier today, As far as I am concerned, shows how much the support team around him means to him

Craner Curves · 2 Aug 2009, 13:39 (Ref:2513955)

Typical ITV with their Plato-obsessed coverage. Missing the move for 2nd place by Turkington because they wanted to see Plato get a minor placing.

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 13:40 (Ref:2513958)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Typical ITV with their Plato-obsessed coverage. Missing the move for 2nd place by Turkington because they wanted to see Plato get a minor placing.

Could be the move for pole?

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 13:51 (Ref:2513967)

Easy win for Fabrizio.

Great drive from Plato to get up to third!

Sorry Craner - I think watching a car move up the field was a safer bet for the camera crew.

Craner Curves · 2 Aug 2009, 13:54 (Ref:2513970)

I'm not arguing about that, but they should have watched the 2nd part of the move, as it was clear Adam was compromised coming from the Esses and Turkington had the run on him. Thompson's drive was equally as good.

brands · 2 Aug 2009, 13:55 (Ref:2513971)

A clean race, see it is possible.....well done guys

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 14:01 (Ref:2513975)

Harry Vaulkhard gets pole for race 3, James Nash will start second.

Collard and Adam look good for a race 3 win though, both lining up on row 2 in the rear wheel drive Airwaves BMW's.

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 14:10 (Ref:2513979)

Got a hunch the last BTCC race might be late. Apparently this Porsche race is 124 laps!

**touringlegend** · 2 Aug 2009, 14:32 (Ref:2513993)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I'm not arguing about that, but they should have watched the 2nd part of the move, as it was clear Adam was compromised coming from the Esses and Turkington had the run on him. Thompson's drive was equally as good.

At least at that point they were still focusing on something happening on track.

Just who are half the people they cut to in the pits? I don't have a clue who they are and doesn't that sort of make it pointless to show them?

Maybe a bit of regret showing from Plato now that he could have settled for 2nd in Race 1 I see.

Craner Curves · 2 Aug 2009, 14:47 (Ref:2513998)

It seems to be influenced by F1, cutting to shots of Nicole Sherzzzzzinger or whatever her name is.

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 14:49 (Ref:2514000)

Grid for Race 3

1 - Harry Vaulkhard - Chevrolet Lacetti

2 - James Nash - Chevrolet Lacetti

3 - Rob Collard - BMW 320si

4 - Jonathan Adam - BMW 320si

5 - Paul O'Neill - Honda Integra Type-R

6 - James Thompson - Honda Civic Type-S

7 - Jason Plato - Chevrolet Lacetti

8 - Colin Turkington - BMW 320si

9 - Fabrizio Giovanardi - Vauxhall Vectra

10 - Gordon Shedden - SEAT Leon

11 - Adam Jones - SEAT Leon

12 - Andrew Jordan - Vauxhall Vectra

13 - Stephen Jelley - BMW 320si

14 - Matt Neal - Vauxhall Vectra

15 - Martin Johnson - Vauxhall Astra Coupe

16 - John George - Honda Integra Type-R

17 - Dave Pinkney - Honda Civic Type-S

18 - Mat Jackson - Chevrolet Lacetti

19 - Tom Chilton - Ford Focus ST

Car Graphics Courtesy of Andy Blackmore Design | Spotter Guides

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 15:10 (Ref:2514008)

We interrupt this thread to bring you this

chunder · 2 Aug 2009, 15:58 (Ref:2514018)

My God

I had enough of her at Hungary, Jesus she got more damn airtime than Lewis

Can she please be kept in a box!!

RE: The footage

I think somer posters may be right, these people must be F1 based as they keep missing the live action to show us replays, rememebr they get nearly 2 hours of tosh in F1 races so they arent used to overtaking

So obvious these are the people that were invovled in F1 as they ahve no idea how to properly cover a TC race!! The cameras are fine and the footage good, but the direction is woeful!! Quite comical though!

Hepatic · 2 Aug 2009, 16:06 (Ref:2514022)

except for this **** on the grid! wtf is he playing at, i feel sick trying to watch that. its like some 14yr old grabbed hold of it and went all arty with it!

i predict carnage. t1. t2. t3. might miss bombhole then russell chicane assuming the SC isn't out by that point anyway

Hazard · 2 Aug 2009, 16:21 (Ref:2514029)

Oh dear, oil on the track it seems. Taken out Plato.

Leaky Ford of Chilton.

Here's that safety car.

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