Outing your name - The discussion (and other assorted bits)

[john ruston]

So put real name in profile

[henk4]

Originally Posted by terence bower

Whilst I agree with you RE,people who post on here whom are already known to others,there are still people who dont have a clue about those who prefer not to show thier real names for whatever reason.

thats another issue, and I don't think people can be forced to reveal their real names and this thread will not help in revealing there identity either. Maybe we should prepare a list of all nick names (of people posting in the historic sections of the forums), put the real name behind and in case people don't want to, say: confidential.

[John Turner]

No way. I spend enough time on here as it is. I'm happy to leave the thread as is at the moment, as I'm sure there may be some stragglers who are yet to happily declare themselves. Might make a list of those who have done so on this thread, ultimately.

[Eddy V]

Well I find it great fun to try and work out who is behind a certain nickname. Most of the times I tend to be right. It doesn't bother me if people use a nickname, bar when they start moaning and complaining all the time. But yes, we could put our real names in our profile. No shame in that.


For some.

[john ruston]

The moaners and complainers should reveal their names ,you should not make controversial points unless you can stand behind your ideas and thoughts.I know that when I make a controversial point I will reveal my real name until then I will contiue to be PC and say nothing to offend people.Now where's that nice Mr Tate,whats his handle?

[henk4]

this can be deleted....

[275 GTB-4]

I think this whole thread can be deleted!! as unhelpful, unproductive and divisive!! all on a social chat forum meant to be fun and informative for all.

[john ruston]

You forgot to add"in my opinion".Most forums require names,Assume you will explain why the thread is unproductive as certain people have revealed their names .Whatever makes your boat float.If it's a forum that only caters for the people who chat why do people from outside the forum ,mostly organisers ,get so worked up about some of the contents and on certain occasions it does some good .This being the case surly you need to be seen to be standing behind your stated opinion not hide behind a pseudonym.
You may have a point but please explain.In my opinion it's more divisive if you hide.

[terence]

Precisely John,I thought the whole point of the thread was an invite for those with something serious to say to be able to stand up and be counted.

[rogerwills]

This has achieved much of what it set out to do surely - many people have said who they are and quite a few have added their real names to their profile / footer so it is visible. Perhaps the administrators could offer people to change their user names for their real names.

But it seems this has about run its course....

[john ruston]

These threads start to show ware when points are repeated so it has or is on its way to grinding to a halt .Suggest people change their user name to the one they are stuck with in the normal world or stick with a handle but I for one would not take notice of their contribution.

[John Turner]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

I think this whole thread can be deleted!! as unhelpful, unproductive and divisive!! all on a social chat forum meant to be fun and informative for all.

Well that's all my fault then! I've read through all 10 pages again and it must be a different thread than the one you have been reading because, for me it has been:-

1) Helpful
2) Productive
3) Not divisive at all, unless we count your post
4) Fun and informative, if not for all, certainly for most who have posted here

As I said at the beginning, and again later, it is simply an opportunity for those who want to, or are prepared to, reveal their true identities. It's not compulsory and those who have disclosed who they are have done so willingly and in good humour, so I'm really struggling with the concept that this thread has presented difficulties. Posters either tell us who they are or don't. It's as simple as that. I see no need to delete this thread which would now would be counter productive and probably annoy all those who have taken the trouble to post!

Roger, it is possible to send a request for a name change to the administrators, but I don't advocate it as a sudden rush of such requests would add to their workload and make me very unpopular! Better would be to add your real name to your profile and/or sign your name at the bottom of your post, as for example does Sarah Hutchison.

[Eddy V]

Originally Posted by terence bower

... an invite for those with something serious to say...

Oi, that is me out of the frame then!

[John Turner]

This thread will only have run its course when people stop posting on it and, remember its primary aim was about revealing who you are, not discussing the psychology of why some people don't/won't. The fact that this thread has included an element of the latter is, in itself a natural progression. John may say that he takes no notice of those who don't reveal who they really are but that is a personal choice and not one that most of us subscribe to. If that was the case we wouldn't be allowing nicknames/pseudonyms in the first place.

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by John Turner

Well that's all my fault then! I've read through all 10 pages again and it must be a different thread than the one you have been reading because, for me it has been:-

1) Helpful
2) Productive
3) Not divisive at all, unless we count your post
4) Fun and informative, if not for all, certainly for most who have posted here

As I said at the beginning, and again later, it is simply an opportunity for those who want to, or are prepared to, reveal their true identities. It's not compulsory and those who have disclosed who they are have done so willingly and in good humour, so I'm really struggling with the concept that this thread has presented difficulties. Posters either tell us who they are or don't. It's as simple as that. I see no need to delete this thread which would now would be counter productive and probably annoy all those who have taken the trouble to post!

It has been divisive John...because the people who seem so proud that they actually have a name and are not afraid to shout it from the rooftops have taken pot shots at those who have chosen a degree of anonimity.

I don't know what the current membership of 10/1oths is but certainly it must be thousands...and I see a silent majority using monikers with no name and (oh by the way) not signing up to this thread.

As for ignoring what "unamed" people say on a public forum whether it is knowledgeable, common sense, innovative, funny or clever...I'm lost for words...this isn't a court of law or the real world people.

I've said enough...if the rules change...au revoir all

[simon drabble]

275 GTB-4 you take yourself way too seriously..... nothing you or indeed any of us say on here is going to change the world. Historic racing is a hobby and drivers make the business and they will ultimately vote with their race entries.

The point that some (myself included) have made is that to make an attack on something and hide behind a nom de plume is perhaps less impressive than someone who is prepared to be named. I think that is an obvious statement with which its pretty difficult to disagree.

That is not divisive - to say that anonymous posts are not allowed would be but no one is saying that - they are merely suggesting (as Peter Wray and others do) that any comment that is strongly made carrioes more credibility when named...

[JFW]

I agree entirely with Simon,

[this is in itself most unsusual as he talks utter crap most of the time.]


I do not use a nickname, merely my initials, which if you log in and out of sites from many different locations, saves an awful lot of typing.

I hold strong views on many things; not all of which reflect the more democratic positions of the club/championship[s] I represent. i therefore feel it inappropriate to advertise this connection lest assumptions [MOAFU] are made.

pop away if you like, its only a pixel.........

JJ

[simon drabble]

only most of the time? I will take that as a compliment!

[JFW]

Originally Posted by simon drabble

only most of the time? I will take that as a compliment!

ROFL, its way too intellectual all of this.

J

[Peter Mallett]

Actually this thread has demonstrated one very important point. Which is that Ruston can be a right grumpy git when he wants to be.

No wonder he's managed to organise the Team 10/10s at the Le Mans classic. everyone's too scared of him.

[John Turner]

We all have differing views. Freedom of speech is all about taking up a position with which others may or may not agree. On this issue, John R probably represents one end and 275GTB4, the other, and both with good reasons which I understand. It has been said often enough that life would be boring if we were all the same and it remains true. However, I really see most people being laid back about this issue, so, as far as I'm concerned it is no more divisive than any other thread. It is NOT a serious issue; certainly nothing that we should be falling out about, and rest assured, I see no likelihood of the rules changing.

If you look at the membership on the home page you will see that it is in the region of 27,000. The silent majority aren't posting here because they tend not to visit this forum. Since the point of the thread was to give those who wish to (sorry if I'm sounding like a broken down record but the point seems to keep getting lost) reveal their true identity, it follows that those who don't, won't! Of course many who do post on this forum do so in their own name so they, too, are unlikely to post on this thread (except a couple of well known comedians ). As Roger has said, the thread, in terms of discussion, has probably run its course, but it is still a vehicle for its intended purpose, so perhaps we'll leave it for that reason alone. Once it has gone awhile with no further declarations, I'll unstick it.

[terence]

Everyone?

[esper]

john if you now change your avater to you better picture of sitting on the roof of your 635. just go on ! I then must say you are the english Socrates

[zefarelly]

what a chain smoking footballer with a huge hairdo?

[TorqueWench]

and just to prove that this thread has more life in it yet - I totally disagree with the miserable one recently - this thread has been amusing in parts, and it's nice to find out who everyone is - and then to meet them at the races- so I can wave at the marshals (which I ALWAYS do) but especially fiercely at the ones I know from here!

So who's on which post at Brands this weekend?