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Old 25 Jun 2018, 16:59 (Ref:3833074)   #26
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St. Pete would have to be two weeks later to avoid a conflict with Sebring, which is the third Saturday in March. And yes, IndyCar does go out of its way to avoid racing the Sebring weekend.
Ah yes and that makes sense.
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The big problem is the long off season, mainly because IndyCar doesn't want to clash with the NFL. The other problem recently, has been an early season start at St. Pete, followed by almost a month until Phoenix.
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The big problem is the long off season, mainly because IndyCar doesn't want to clash with the NFL. The other problem recently, has been an early season start at St. Pete, followed by almost a month until Phoenix.
They play too much into the football deal, which is BOTH college and NFL - otherwise, they'd be running Saturday night races. Two races in September won't be any better or worse watched / attended than they are now...

What would be better? A June and LM break, 2 races prior to Sebring followed by a Sebring / March break or 6 months straight with no racing?
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Late March early April in NE Alabama can be sketchy at times but when it's not, it's beautiful.
OT: I've always found it very strange move, when the NASCAR race in Atlanta was scheduled in late February. Though they had pretty good weather in 2016 and 2017.
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OT: I've always found it very strange move, when the NASCAR race in Atlanta was scheduled in late February. Though they had pretty good weather in 2016 and 2017.
It snowed at one of the March races. Late March "should" be fine. Or, it would be a little twisty. IE, Tornadoes....
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OT: I've always found it very strange move, when the NASCAR race in Atlanta was scheduled in late February. Though they had pretty good weather in 2016 and 2017.
We used to have two races, one in March and the other in October, then pushed out to November. I've been to both and they were all cold (by our standards, 0-10C) and I am sure it killed attendance. I can do those temps for several hours, but not all day...

Which is why I think Barber should probably stay where it's at. The only downside is that when there is weather, it can get rowdy.

I'm not sure what the solution to the missing race is but if somehow we could keep Mid Ohio and work Cleveland into the schedule too...
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Mexico and Sonoma.
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Because it's green in April, and yellow in September.
I thought you mentioned Sanoma with regards to the empty slot between March and April.
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Because it's green in April, and yellow in September.
Sonoma is in California anyway, so it'll never be as green as places like Barber or Mid-Ohio.
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Sonoma is in California anyway, so it'll never be as green as places like Barber or Mid-Ohio.
That area of California has very green and very tan growth depending on the season, and not too much further north is VERY green, but I can't think of any major tracks in that area. Think redwood forest and coastal fog near constantly. California runs the entire spectrum from desert scrub to temperate rain forest so it all depends where you are. Sonoma just happens to be more chaparral (cismontane if you prefer specifics) than green forest most of the year.
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That area of California has very green and very tan growth depending on the season, and not too much further north is VERY green, but I can't think of any major tracks in that area. Think redwood forest and coastal fog near constantly. California runs the entire spectrum from desert scrub to temperate rain forest so it all depends where you are. Sonoma just happens to be more chaparral (cismontane if you prefer specifics) than green forest most of the year.
The other major circuit is Laguna Seca but it's about 125 miles south.
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Holy smokes! It's been 14 years since the last IndyCar race at LS?? Is that accurate??

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It would be hard to justify and still go to Mid-Ohio, but that's what I want too. Both races would have great crowds too.
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That area of California has very green and very tan growth depending on the season, and not too much further north is VERY green, but I can't think of any major tracks in that area. Think redwood forest and coastal fog near constantly. California runs the entire spectrum from desert scrub to temperate rain forest so it all depends where you are. Sonoma just happens to be more chaparral (cismontane if you prefer specifics) than green forest most of the year.
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Oh wow...I was wrong this time. It's almost like some British tracks.

Btw. here in Finland where we had virtually no rain from 10th of May till mid-June, open spaces (and our lawn) really started to look very much like coastal California. Usually the early June is mostly cool and overcast.
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The immediate problem IndyCar faces with next season is, without Phoenix, what's going to fill the gap between Round 1 at St. Pete and Round 3, which I suppose will be Long Beach?
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I'm guessing either Homestead or Houston. I don't see a return to Las Vegas or NOLA coming, and that slot is definitely too close to Long Beach for them to do Fontana then.
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I'm guessing either Homestead or Houston. I don't see a return to Las Vegas or NOLA coming, and that slot is definitely too close to Long Beach for them to do Fontana then.
It's a lot easier to stage a race at a permanent facility be it an oval or road course than it is to stage a race on a temporary circuit. If IndyCar could possibly return to Houston in 2019, we'd probably have heard something about it by now.

The other issue with Houston is that it probably makes keeping Texas Motor Speedway on the schedule somewhat less likely long term.

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It's a lot easier to stage a race at a permanent facility be it an oval or road course than it is to stage a race on a temporary circuit. If IndyCar could possibly return to Houston in 2019, we'd probably have heard something about it by now.

The other issue with Houston is that it probably makes keeping Texas Motor Speedway on the schedule somewhat less likely long term.
Sad the only options are high banks and a parking lot in Texas...oh and COTA, I guess!

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Homestead would be good but where does it go on the calendar? Realistically, it can't come straight after St. Pete, so are Long Beach and Barber moved forward? Though not confirmed, I don't think Mexico has been ruled out.
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