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Old 15 Jul 2019, 15:13 (Ref:3917857)   #16
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I think Vettel doesn’t really feel he needs to achieve much more in the sport. He’s got his four titles after all
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Old 15 Jul 2019, 15:23 (Ref:3917859)   #17
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Good old Eddie Jordan was back on Channel 4 for the Grand Prix this weekend. His prediction (albeit for 2021) was Vettel & Verstappen at Mercedes & Hamilton to Ferrari ('to finish his Formula 1 career')!
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Vettel has a big question mark, which I think will be key. As will what Bottas does
I think those 2 are indeed key, but for Bottas: it doesn't depend on what Bottas does, is depends on what Mercedes decides.


I can't see Verstappen go to Ferrari. Staying at Red Bull for 2020 is no worse option, and he can still see what happens for 2021. I think he targets Hamilton's seat (for 2021 or beyond)

I understand why EJ said Hamilton would go to Ferrari in that case. Verstappen-Hamilton just won't work (*), and the chance of winning in a Ferrari is something only few can resist.

(*) I didn't think EJ meant that Hamilton would be afraid of Verstappen, just that it would not work. Think Hamilton-Rosberg, just maybe worse.


On the other hand, I can't see Verstappen-Vettel at Mercedes either. Mercedes has not need for Vettel, unless he dramatically improves in 2020, in which case he has no need to leave Ferrari and they have no need to let him go.
If Mercedes needs someone to partner Verstappen, I think they would go for Ocon or Russell anyway. Why raise young drivers if you're not going to use them?


Ricciardo to Ferrari? Maybe. If Vettel leaves or has to leave, what choice do they have? Verstappen won't do it I think and will probably be too expensive anyway (especially if they have to buy out Vettel's contract). They have a few youngsters but none of them are ready or have enough SuperLicense points.
That leaves Ricciardo, Alonso, Bottas (?) (but why take him if he is dropped by Mercedes)
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Hamilton will never be a Ferrari signing, his driving style is their cup of tea but his out of the car stuff certainly isn't.

I've heard on the vine that Grosjean is definitely out, KMag is staying.

Seems to me Gasly has to keep up his Silverstone form for the rest of the year or he's out. If Albon keeps improving, he might get the gig.

Whilst i'd love to see Alonso back, Renault would be wise to keep the current line up unless they are absolutely sure they can sign someone who is guaranteed to do better than Hulk. Don't think there's very many who could that would be either available or affordable.

If Vettel does the right thing and puts his career out of its misery, Ferrari may need to put someone like Hulk in as a 1-2 year stop gap until they can get who they want.
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I made a list of Vettel mishap in wheel to wheel through the last few seasons:


June 2017 Bakuh (Vettel Hamilton incident)
Sept 2017 Singapore (Vettel, Verstappen, Raikkonen incident)
Oct 2017 Mexico (Verstappen vs Vettel, drives his front wing off at T2)

Jun 2018 France (Hits Bottas at T1)
Jul 2018 Germany (goes off in the wet)
Sept 2018 Monza (spun after contact with Hamilton)
Oct 2018 Japan (drives into Verstappen who’s ahead)
Oct 2018 COTA (runs into Ricciardo who’s ahead)

Mar 2019 Bahrein (goes on the throttle too early in fight with Hamilton)
Jun 2019 (misses braking point, cut’s chicane and gets penalty)
Juli 2019 Silverstone (Rams Verstappen off the track)




I'm not sure how he's gonna turn it around. What would change? As others have said, I like the guy off the track. However it's reaching a point that same input will give the same output.
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