Supercars Gen 3 (2022)

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

888 Shakedown Next Monday 30 Jan

Concerning! How did they get parts when DJR did not?

Seems suspicious! Surely the last thing the category needs is for 888 to have more data than others.

"The same cannot be said for Shell V-Power Racing Team who have confirmed to V8 Sleuth that they are officially out for January 30th."

Surely more of the Gen 3 car design process should have been allocated to an independent third party like Garry Rogers Motorsport, not a rival competitor like 888 too...

...if GRM had included flaws like the ol' GRM steering rack vibration problem that the likes of McLaughlin learned to ignore, all the better!

According to Jeremy Moore, himself and two others at 888 were involved in a designing a large proportion of the Gen 3 car. The steering rack for example is supposedly a 888 design according to Brad Jones.

[S griffin]

Yes, that is strange how no other team got that data. Surely others have at least as much opportunity as others? But there must be a good reason for it. 888 been in the good books? Or they trust them more with the experience? But there is a conflict of interest there for sure

[Compromised]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Yes, that is strange how no other team got that data. Surely others have at least as much opportunity as others? But there must be a good reason for it. 888 been in the good books? Or they trust them more with the experience? But there is a conflict of interest there for sure

T8 are the best team and are without a doubt the group you'd want developing a new platform.... if they weren't active competitors in the series said platform will race in.

As V8 Fireworks said, it SHOULD have been a third party like GRM etc, not the dominant team of the last generation. Not only is it grossly unfair, it feeds the silly conspiracies regarding T8 favouritism (though, if it quacks like a duck...)

The icing on the cake is the joke of VCAT testing - using a runway to test aerodynamics was problematic for Gen2, but they went ahead and used it again. Why?

[Mattracer]

Who could possibly be surprised that the only team able to put a car on the deck is 888? That already gives them an advantage over others as they are one whole test day down the road before the other major teams plus a large percentage of proprietary knowledge in the design and manufacturing plus having Goddard in the team with his knowledge of the prototype.

[banksie]

A group like GRM doesn't have the engineering skills that T8 do. The best teams have been involved and will deliver a great product.

Have items such as the rear wing on the Mustang been signed off yet? If not, no surprise the teams can't hit the track.

But its just a shakedown. Normally they can only do 60km of running. What does it say if PremiAir are also on track with T8?

[chavez]

In any other business if a supplier was using product while their customers waited on the same product there would be outrage.

Yes, the Triple 8 race team is a customer of Triple 8 Engineering, but at best this is a very poor showing from all involved, at worst it places in question the openness, transparency and fairness of the process.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by banksie

A group like GRM doesn't have the engineering skills that T8 do.

GRM have the ability to design and build a car down to a price. They've been doing it for years!

It wouldn't be as shmick as a 888 car, but wouldn't that be part of the charm?

I imagine the front uprights on the GRM Monaros or their V8 Supercars or their S5000 cars wouldn't cost anywhere near and wouldn't need to be priced anywhere near the $50,000 per set that 888 used to charge...

[S griffin]

It is a surprise there isn't more outrage about this. GRM would have been fine, but to give it to 888 is surely giving them an advantage?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by chavez

In any other business if a supplier was using product while their customers waited on the same product there would be outrage.

Yes, the Triple 8 race team is a customer of Triple 8 Engineering, but at best this is a very poor showing from all involved, at worst it places in question the openness, transparency and fairness of the process.

Premi-Air is reportedly ready to test, as is BRT...

DJR built their prototype Ford, how can there be a hold up in building up the race cars?

BJR shows off one or two chassis is some state of build..

Mr Adderton reckons he takes delivery of his Camaro on 24 Feb..
The SuperCheap Camaro.. was that CGI or a real car

Everyone else seems quiet..


Lucky a race meeting isnt 6 weeks away isnt it...

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Premi-Air is reportedly ready to test, as is BRT...

DJR built their prototype Ford, how can there be a hold up in building up the race cars?

Do BRT or any other Mustang runner definitely have the approved and homologated rear wings and front splitters in their possession?

[kittle]

How can any ford team be ready to test when nothing has been signed of yet. So why would there be parts available if there could be changes needed and sign off has been completed??

Obviously the Camero has been signed of but how can one team be ready to test and the others aren't even close. there is always going to be conspiracies sarounding one team in T8, but siriously Supercars have a lot to answer for in this whole process.

NASCAR were able to produce enough parts for each team and that is more than double what supercars have. They are very much behind the times down here, and its on show to the world of how incappable they really are.

Originally Posted by Mattracer

Who could possibly be surprised that the only team able to put a car on the deck is 888? That already gives them an advantage over others as they are one whole test day down the road before the other major teams plus a large percentage of proprietary knowledge in the design and manufacturing plus having Goddard in the team with his knowledge of the prototype.

i disagree with this as every drive has been able to test this car on more than one occasion.

[GTRMagic]

Another day, another story filled with unattributed text

[GTRMagic]

Revised shakedown date: Friday 10th March, 2022.
If the teams don’t make the session, $150,000 fines agogo…

[kittle]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Revised shakedown date: Friday 10th March, 2022.
If the teams don’t make the session, $150,000 fines agogo…

Is the fine still applicable if they haven't been supplied with parts??

[Compromised]

How about this gem from Ryan Walkinshaw -

"It would be nice to think we could turn the key and start her up soon, though we are still waiting on an ECU and the fuel specification and supplier."