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Old 3 Jun 2001, 12:32 (Ref:100472)   #1
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Driving Standards ?

Well, finally, I got to see a program on cable which showed (brief) highlights of the V8s! Woohoo! They showed 2 races from Adelaide earlier this season, but I was absolutely amazed at the driving standards (or lack of) showed by the drivers - is this normal, or did the drivers simply leave their brains at home that weekend ?
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Old 3 Jun 2001, 12:40 (Ref:100474)   #2
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Depends on the driver - some don't leave home without them, others don't even have a home to leave them whilst the rest just don't have any
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Old 3 Jun 2001, 12:48 (Ref:100479)   #3
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Seemed to me that pretty much half the field were trying to run each other off the road at one point or other... even Lowndes and Skaife were getting intimate with each other
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Old 3 Jun 2001, 13:36 (Ref:100488)   #4
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glad you got to see something at least Craig.

Adelaide always seems to bring in endless amounts of brain fade..even the Old F1 days were quite amazing to see at times..i think its just the nature of the track..but in some ways ..yes this is the usual for V8's..and I think thats why we love..plenty of sideways action and a bit of biff and barge and just full on from the green flag.

would be interested in the particular incidents you are refering to but hey thats V8 racing..is hard to pass and you have to realy on the guy in front making a mistake ..if he doesnt ..help him make one
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All of this boosted along by a commentary team intent on making more of a spectacle of it than it really is or should be...

Like virtually everything about the class, the enforcement of rules is only done for show.
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Craig- After Adelaide, everyone on the recieving end of the hard driving *****ed and moaned about the driving and the penalty standards, so since then, if you so much as contemplate overtaking a car you get pinged...
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I'm not surprised that they moaned - what I saw was absolutey ridiculous! As I say though, i've hardly seen enough of the series to know anything about it, but if they have to do *that* to make a pass then it suggests there's something wrong with the cars ?
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There was a lot of good racing amoungst the lunacy, it was just because the Adelaide race is a make or break one for everyone's championship, thus everyone goes like mad dogs....miss the big points there and you may as well pack your bags for the rest of the season. Add to the points, you also have the biggest crowd for the year, in front of all of the sponsors.

Also I'd imagine in the Bright Vs Seton crash, there would have been an element of fatigue. Many of the drivers had to be put on drips after the races because it was so bloody hot and hard.
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Reference the drips - you would have thought that after last year that AVESCO had learnt something about that time of year? Or are they really that mentally challenged?
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Must be, they're running the Canberra farce on the same cold weekend as last time... and it might be wet, too...

Canberra cold and wet is not to be toyed with.
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Yeah the driving standards for V8 Supercars are often critiscised around the time of Bathurst when the full time drivers meet up with once a year racers.

There was one particular chap at last years Bathurst who's driving standards were an absolute disgrace...I think his name was Matt Neal or something like that.

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Sorry to say this, but I am praying for snow at the 400.....lets see how good the AVESCO control chains go
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oh er misses...do they have whips as well ?
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miss the big points there and you may as well pack your bags for the rest of the season.
To score points you also have to finish the race...

After seeing that fiasco on TV I am amazed that anyone can claim Matt Neal has no skills as a driver - he may not be good, but he's better than the lunatics I saw on TV the other night. Good god, i've seen better driving at the local banger track!
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Apart from a few biff and barge experts, Craig, I can assure you it's not the norm.

If it was, Bathurst would be over before halfway... none would survive.
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