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Old 8 Sep 2019, 14:33 (Ref:3926657)   #136
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Well done LeClerc. Still don't understand what Ferrari did to turn things around. Also great drives from Bottas and Ham plus Ric.

Did Lando get his point?
He did, yes.
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 14:35 (Ref:3926658)   #137
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Wonderful race!
Not really. To few overtakes.
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 14:37 (Ref:3926662)   #138
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He did, yes.
Excellent. That lad is another talent.
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 15:01 (Ref:3926675)   #139
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I added up all of Vettel's finishing positions for each season in F1. They come to 44. If we add the 1 from F1, will that be a P45 at the end of the season?
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 15:02 (Ref:3926677)   #140
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Hmm,

He seems to be like the tyres, dropped off the cliff. Would rather see him retire than be sacked.
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 18:01 (Ref:3926696)   #141
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Actually a good race but not sure why Charles got a black and white flag and a warning then left the track and returned but got nothing for that, however he deserved that win to be honest
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 18:07 (Ref:3926701)   #142
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Well done LeClerc. Still don't understand what Ferrari did to turn things around.
I think Ferrari have always had good straight line speed.... the Spa and Monza result may be more track related / suiting than Ferrari updates Peter. Just a hunch. See if it is normal service resumed at Singapore, which is not so much a straight line speed benefit circuit.
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Actually a good race but not sure why Charles got a black and white flag and a warning then left the track and returned but got nothing for that, however he deserved that win to be honest

It's the consequence of the outspoken desire of many F1 followers to let them race. Just pushing people of the track then becomes an option. A bit rougher than I personally prefer, but if it is applied consistently I suppose over a season it could be viewed as fair and interesting racing.


About the race: Very enjoyable. I can only imagine how fantastic the Monza race will be with 2021 aero and DRS removed or strongly reduced. That will be something to witness!
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 19:11 (Ref:3926717)   #144
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What happened in the three week break to make the Ferraris so quick?
the Ferrari's were always fast on the straights, they just had the right 2 tracks for that now with Monza and Spa.

the tracks with the longest time of full throttle are Spa and Monza(70%)

they probably won't be as fast in Singapore(with 44% one of the slowest tracks)

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the Ferrari's were always fast on the straights, they just had the right 2 tracks for that with Monza and Spa.

they probably won't be as fast in Singapore

Agreed. I expect Verstappen to take the pole and win at Singapore.
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F1 is an absolute ****ing JOKE after that black and white flag. That deserves a warning but Vettel re-entering the track ACROSS another driver doesn't deserve exclusion? That's just a joke, turned it off since obviously Hamilton should be allowed to win according to the stewards this week.
Just watched the highlights. Great race between Charles and the 2 Mercs, and congratulations to the youngster in holding them both off. That Ferrari was fast in a straight line...... Shame about the Macca loose wheel, but at least Lando got a point.

Don’t understand the highlighted sentence above though. Where was the stewards bias towards Hamilton. What did I miss?
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And Vettel got a penalty whereas Leclerc got a warning, so they favoured Hamilton. It makes perfect sense.
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Actually a good race but not sure why Charles got a black and white flag and a warning then left the track and returned but got nothing for that, however he deserved that win to be honest
Itís simple enough I think. Look at it from the stewardsí point of view. Itís the Italian GP. Youíve already dished out a hefty penalty to the No 2 Ferrari driver for some pretty crass driving. Do you really think you could penalise the No 1 driver while leading, and leave the circuit alive?
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The new approach of being more lenient could become a problem if all drivers now think they can make one aggressive defence and get their customary black and white flag warning. That would rely on the stewards being consistent, however.
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Old 8 Sep 2019, 22:49 (Ref:3926757)   #150
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