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Old 12 Sep 2019, 21:07 (Ref:3927616)   #1
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WTCR Race of China 2019

Finally WTCR is back this weekend.

And very surprisingly with live coverage on Motorsport.tv
https://motorsport.tv/program/fia-wo...ve-racing/1800

Can a be a good hunting for every manufacturer, track is suitable for averybody except probably Alfa, IMO
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 09:42 (Ref:3927676)   #2
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 13:55 (Ref:3927713)   #3
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Last minute BoP that favours L&C. I'm calling bullshit.
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 14:05 (Ref:3927714)   #4
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Last minute BoP that favours L&C. I'm calling bullshit.
...and the Chinese driver topping FP1 😂

Though all out the 03s were outside the top ten in FP1, so either it's made no real difference or their sandbagging...
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 14:28 (Ref:3927718)   #5
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WTCR is back? I've forgotten about this championship's existence!

On a more serious note, there's something really wrong with this series. Ridiculous results (that stem from ridiculous BoP), poor coverage and even such a long summer break. Although I was a fan of WTCR concept in the beginning, now I barely find motivation to check results.
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 16:03 (Ref:3927741)   #6
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WTCR is back? I've forgotten about this championship's existence!

On a more serious note, there's something really wrong with this series. Ridiculous results (that stem from ridiculous BoP), poor coverage and even such a long summer break. Although I was a fan of WTCR concept in the beginning, now I barely find motivation to check results.
LOL
We are same
Just I keep forgetting about BTCC not WTCR, but I never missed any race of any touring series in the world.
What to say? I am racing fan
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 21:18 (Ref:3927788)   #7
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As I said, at first I was enthusiastic about the WTCR concept but now the enthusiasm is... well, gone.
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 22:18 (Ref:3927797)   #8
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Agree. I want to like it but it's just been impossible to follow!
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Old 13 Sep 2019, 23:35 (Ref:3927811)   #9
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Yes, there’s clearly massive potential here but WTCR BOP is a complete shambles.
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 08:23 (Ref:3927852)   #10
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Just a reminder - BOP is not WTCR specific, it is contorlled by WSC and is implemented for the whole TCR category
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 10:02 (Ref:3927870)   #11
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On paper it should be one of the best series period, in reality it is a big disappointment. BoP/stewards and the calendar kill the series.

The BoP increments are too large and too reactionary, they should have a SRO type system were the cars have a BoP for a certain type of track. The VAG stuff constantly sits around the mid table while the Link & Co/Honda and Hyundai are dominant or in no mans land at the back. Then the needless success ballast does more to harm the racing with it being for a whole weekend and for every driver in that model of car. Then we have the most uninspiring calendar with tracks that overtaking isn't hard on but impossible.
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 11:51 (Ref:3927889)   #12
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Just a reminder - BOP is not WTCR specific, it is contorlled by WSC and is implemented for the whole TCR category
Yes. That abjectly doesn’t work for this series though does it.

I watch the races and enjoy them as a fan of touring cars and close racing, but the results across the series are just too random. Then there’s the manufacturer groups, BOP gaming with certain drivers always at the back while their team mates run at the front and team orders...

A decent race again today though, It’s just a shame the stands were empty. Ningbo is a really nice grade 2 track, as several of these new Chinese circuits are.
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 12:32 (Ref:3927894)   #13
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In GT3 I understand that we need a BoP: front, mid, rear engine, Large , small displacement, turbo and NA enginines.
But why do we need a BoP in WTCR?
All cars have same displacement, FWD,...
OK, some are sedan, some are hatchback.

I would make same ride height, same boost, same weight for all and the better car may win.
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 12:53 (Ref:3927895)   #14
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I would make same ride height, same boost, same weight for all and the better car may win.
At which point every team buys those cars and it becomes a one make series.
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Old 14 Sep 2019, 13:46 (Ref:3927901)   #15
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At which point every team buys those cars and it becomes a one make series.
Not if the other manufacturers want to sell too. Then they must improve. Isn't that the spririt of motorsport? Everyone has the same preconditions and the best may win
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