[Team] Red Bull: Unbullievable

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by Teretonga

Poor young Liam Lawson.
So many of the armchair experts expect him to fail.
So many Checo supporters want him to fail.
So the only way to succeed must surely be to fail.
Then they can all say "I told you so."

If he finishes right behind Max, or even scores podiums, it will be because of the superior car, not his ability.
If he fails as Perez did, it will be because he can't drive properly and its not the car, because Max can make it work for himself.

About the only thing he can do is to out-qualify and outdrive Max, and we know where that will end up, even if he was capable of it.
He's not.
But this site and dozens of others have already decided he's fit for nothing but crucifixion before the ink has dried on the contract.

Lawson is going to need a miracle.....

IM sure he is going to get podiums 100%

[S griffin]

No one wants Lawson to fail, it's just the general feeling is he's being pushed too soon and might not be able to handle the pressure. Could say the same about Kimi at Merc, but Red Bull tends to be more high pressure, whereas Merc tends to be a bit easier on their drivers

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by S griffin

No one wants Lawson to fail, it's just the general feeling is he's being pushed too soon and might not be able to handle the pressure. Could say the same about Kimi at Merc, but Red Bull tends to be more high pressure, whereas Merc tends to be a bit easier on their drivers

There's more pressure at Red Bull, as drivers don't just have to answer to Team Principal Horner, they also come under the ever watchful eye of Dr. Helmut Marko, who we know can be ruthless and can make or break a driver's career.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

There's more pressure at Red Bull, as drivers don't just have to answer to Team Principal Horner, they also come under the ever watchful eye of Dr. Helmut Marko, who we know can be ruthless and can make or break a driver's career.

And Mr Lawson might just become lead driver when/if Mr Verstappen escapes to Mercedes if/when the RB21 proves more recalcitrant and odd than the RB20..

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

And Mr Lawson might just become lead driver when/if Mr Verstappen escapes to Mercedes if/when the RB21 proves more recalcitrant and odd than the RB20..

I think there’s been talk of Verstappen moving to Aston

[greentrumpet]

IKBA but suspect that unless the No 2 driver likes a pointy car as Max seems to they will struggle as the car is fair enough set up for the No1 and they don't seem able to run a car adjustable to both styles.That may have been a problem for Sainz who seems to prefer more benign handling as, I believe, does Perez, let's hope it suits Lawson.
That's before we get into the mind games

[ChrisA]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I think there’s been talk of Verstappen moving to Aston

Not only that, but also talk for 2026, him going to Williams.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by ChrisA

Not only that, but also talk for 2026, him going to Williams.

That I find hard to believe. Williams need to prove themselves first

[ChrisA]

Originally Posted by S griffin

That I find hard to believe. Williams need to prove themselves first

It was something that came up on Google. I also dispute it. Not sure of the source.

[S griffin]

Well I’ve yet to see much on it either, so it’s probably rubbish

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by ChrisA

Not only that, but also talk for 2026, him going to Williams.

PLEASE.............I have more chance of going to Williams that MV

Why would he, Unless he purchased the team

[chillibowl]

What do you think the top RB folk are getting for each other this Christmas?

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

What do you think the top RB folk are getting for each other this Christmas?

Daggers.Hand delivered.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

What do you think the top RB folk are getting for each other this Christmas?

Left over Perez merchandise as it will never be seen again...

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

What do you think the top RB folk are getting for each other this Christmas?

My understanding is that they have implemented a list of books in which senior management can purchase (and expense). The list includes...

* "How to Win Friends and Influence People" - Dale Carnegie
* "Being Good: A Short Introduction to Ethics" - Simon Blackburn
* "Negotiating and Drafting Employment Agreements" - Andrew Boling
* "Toxic at Work: Surviving Your Psychopathic Workmates, from the Dominant Bullies to the Charming Manipulators" - David Gillespie
* "Crisis Management: Mastering the Skills to Prevent Disasters" - Harvard Business School Press
* "Winning the War for Talent: Recruit, Retain, and Develop The Talent Your Business Needs to Survive and Thrive" - Chris Czarnik

It's an ambitious list, but it might be timely reading for those making the big decisions!

Richard

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by ChrisA

Not only that, but also talk for 2026, him going to Williams.

Is it April already?

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

What do you think the top RB folk are getting for each other this Christmas?

Book for Dr H Marko: "Best recipes to deal with Mexican drivers" by Jeremy Clarkson (foreword by Héctor Rebaque).

[S griffin]

I’m not sure Hector Rebaque would get the reference

[ChrisA]

Any truth in the possibility that CH is going to resign from RBR. There are various reports in the news that this might happen.

[chillibowl]

Just me but I would not bet on it. Feels more like pre season click bait rehashing of last years stories imo.