Home Mobile Forum News Cookbook FaceBook Us T-Shirts etc.: Europe/Worldwide. eBay Motorsport Links Advertising  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Sportscar & GT Racing > North American Racing


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 24 Apr 2019, 17:17 (Ref:3899429)   #1201
Mike Hedlund
Veteran
 
Mike Hedlund's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
United States
Redwood City, CA
Posts: 687
Mike Hedlund should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMike Hedlund should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMike Hedlund should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by broadrun96 View Post
I can't say I can think of a GTLM tire other than Michelin for this current time set. Has there been anyone in WEC or Am running a different spec? There aren't any true privateer cars out there, yes Ferrari isn't TRULY factory but really, so there isn't anyone looking to risk it for the cash like AMR used to in ALMS days with Pirellis.
Lots of GTE (Am) teams in Europe have run on Dunlops. They're good, but not as good as the customer Michelin's (mostly due to the Michelin wet options being light years better, the full slicks are very close). No Am cars run the confidential tires (well they aren't supposed to anyway).

-mike
Mike Hedlund is offline  
Quote
Old 24 Apr 2019, 18:06 (Ref:3899444)   #1202
broadrun96
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
United States
Posts: 4,556
broadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund View Post
Lots of GTE (Am) teams in Europe have run on Dunlops. They're good, but not as good as the customer Michelin's (mostly due to the Michelin wet options being light years better, the full slicks are very close). No Am cars run the confidential tires (well they aren't supposed to anyway).

-mike
Ask and an answer shall appear, many thanks. I can't say I've actually noticed the tires on most of the GTs except the Dunlop liveried Ferrari and the ALMS Astons so good to know there is another option. Now, whether Ford would let a team run another tire or would add a clause in the purchase contract stipulating all materials and kit. Not that I'm trying to argue against extra privateer cars, just thinking aloud.
broadrun96 is online now  
__________________
It was fun while it lasted, have enjoyed the people I've met but the measuring contests and arguments over who's more insider and who's smarter has just made it not worth the effort any longer. It should be fun, not work and it's just work to find actual information.
Quote
Old 13 May 2019, 21:04 (Ref:3903569)   #1203
joeb
Race Official
Veteran
 
joeb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
United States
Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 10,912
joeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famejoeb will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Road Atlanta tower is coming along. Looks like they took out the bathroom behind the old tower

https://twitter.com/IMSA/status/1128...118806016?s=19
joeb is offline  
Quote
Old 14 May 2019, 14:44 (Ref:3903722)   #1204
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7,316
S griffin has a real shot at the championship!S griffin has a real shot at the championship!S griffin has a real shot at the championship!S griffin has a real shot at the championship!S griffin has a real shot at the championship!
Good progress there. Can't wait to see the finished work. Made some good use of money replacing the old one with a more up to date one
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old Yesterday, 16:56 (Ref:3905248)   #1205
MaskedRacer
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,610
MaskedRacer should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridMaskedRacer should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Talking about BMW's WEC withdraw and its effect on IMSA.

WEC GTE Pro has been awesome this super season and it really has been the GT racing at its finest. The summit of that category has been reached it appears now. Downhill from here.

I imagine Ford will say good bye after Le Mans too. And that GTE will have just 3 manufacturers full time across the pro and am landscape. That will kill interest. Got a good feeling we'll see a Ford in IMSA GTLM in 2020 through privateer or semi factory means. So IMSA GTLM should be in good shape in 2020. But I think GT racing future is going to be fuzzy until the prototype situation is worked out. At least on WEC side.

IMSA is straight forward. DPI2 is a go in 2022. I think GTLM will open itself to allow with GTE cars and GT3 pros in a year or 2. I think a GT3 car in IMSA can compete in GTLM when you have 1) all pro drivers 2) customized Michilens tires (or other brand) 3) removal of GTD mandated BoP. Thats it. That will put a GT3 car right there in GTLM speed zone.
MaskedRacer is offline  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 18:30 (Ref:3905260)   #1206
broadrun96
Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
United States
Posts: 4,556
broadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famebroadrun96 will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaskedRacer View Post
Talking about BMW's WEC withdraw and its effect on IMSA.

WEC GTE Pro has been awesome this super season and it really has been the GT racing at its finest. The summit of that category has been reached it appears now. Downhill from here.

I imagine Ford will say good bye after Le Mans too. And that GTE will have just 3 manufacturers full time across the pro and am landscape. That will kill interest. Got a good feeling we'll see a Ford in IMSA GTLM in 2020 through privateer or semi factory means. So IMSA GTLM should be in good shape in 2020. But I think GT racing future is going to be fuzzy until the prototype situation is worked out. At least on WEC side.

IMSA is straight forward. DPI2 is a go in 2022. I think GTLM will open itself to allow with GTE cars and GT3 pros in a year or 2. I think a GT3 car in IMSA can compete in GTLM when you have 1) all pro drivers 2) customized Michilens tires (or other brand) 3) removal of GTD mandated BoP. Thats it. That will put a GT3 car right there in GTLM speed zone.
I think a Ford possibly but they'll need some hella cash from a team/driver who won't hurt them too much as the third for enduros. It seems like they are willing to sell some of the cars, some are destined for Ford museum and display models. I could see Keating running GTD Sprint and GTLM in enduros. Given Risi's struggles with funding and consistent racing I would be surprised to see more cars. Ford seems to be factory or nothing and I don't think they would offer much assistance. Ganassi is probably working on something but he had a rough time in Indy finding full funding so IMSA could prove tough.

I could see GT3s hanging at top end but on the tighter tracks and the corners? No way they can do enough to speed them up to make it a reasonable race, even with full Pro entries. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see IMSA try so they could get MB, McLaren, Acura more interested. Think it would be the precursor to a full GT3 factory team field and the end of GTE/LM
broadrun96 is online now  
__________________
It was fun while it lasted, have enjoyed the people I've met but the measuring contests and arguments over who's more insider and who's smarter has just made it not worth the effort any longer. It should be fun, not work and it's just work to find actual information.
Quote
Old Yesterday, 19:29 (Ref:3905264)   #1207
chernaudi
Veteran
 
chernaudi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
United States
Mansfield, Ohio
Posts: 8,013
chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!chernaudi has a real shot at the podium!
I'm not sure how much different in performance the current crop of GT3 cars are vs GTE/GTLM cars. The Aston Martin Vantage and Ferrari 488 are seemingly very similar as far as SRO GT3 vs ACO/IMSA GTE/GTLM specs as far as aero and power.

Also, GT3s run in Super GT, and at Fuji a GT3 spec BMW M6 did run a faster lap around Fuji than a GTE spec Ford GT. I know that Super GT has a more intense tire battle vs the WEC, and JAF do BOP differently than the ACO or IMSA or the SRO. Also, GT3 cars that run in GTD are more restricted to keep them separate from GTLM cars.
chernaudi is online now  
__________________
Power to me is having the ability to make a change in a positive way. Don't dream it, be it.
Quote
Old Yesterday, 20:50 (Ref:3905278)   #1208
Maelochs
Veteran
 
Maelochs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 4,157
Maelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameMaelochs will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Sorry to double-post but this discussion is also going on in the WEC thread and my thoughts haven't matured much in the 30 seconds since I posted there ....

I may not remember correctly, but I think a lot of the GTLM/GTE-Pro advantage is aero. The GT3s are almost as quick on a long enough straight (which makes Daytona so much fun for GT drivers) but the GTE/GTLM cars have a lot more aero for braking and cornering.

Not sure the manufacturers dropping big bucks in GTE/GTLM would take kindly to a lot of privateers trying to build their own---not sure the GT3 manufacturers would want their names on home-made GTE specials ... and as I recall, some manufacturers have simply ruled out the expense of GTE/GTLM (Audi, McLaren as I recall.)

An addition: even if they cars could be sort of "balanced" on some tracks, it would be a DP/P2 sort of balance, where the GTLM/GTE cars would make speed in very different ways---and if the GT3s were given enough power to compete, they could get in front of a GTLM/GTE and just block through the corners and pull away on corner exit. if the GT3s had less power, they wouldn't be able to hang at all unless the track had a huge straight, and then they'd need help from traffic or something. I don't see it as a very tidy solution.
Maelochs is offline  
Quote
Old Yesterday, 21:48 (Ref:3905286)   #1209
RWill2073
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,119
RWill2073 has a real shot at the championship!RWill2073 has a real shot at the championship!RWill2073 has a real shot at the championship!RWill2073 has a real shot at the championship!RWill2073 has a real shot at the championship!
Doesn't it just seem like it's about time for gtlm to the way gt1 did, where gt2 took it over as top class after it dwindled to just corvette? Seems like the natural progression: top gt class gets too expensive, maxes out performance, goes away, second, larger class takes over. Becomes just as quick as previous iteration of top gt class, prices itself out, and goes away in favor of secondary gt class again.

Gt3 will be the new gt2 (gtd), gt2 (gtd) the new gtlm. Then gt4 the new gt3 and round and round it goes....
RWill2073 is online now  
Quote
Old Today, 00:14 (Ref:3905303)   #1210
seanyb505
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
United States
Simpsonville, SC
Posts: 1,086
seanyb505 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridseanyb505 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridseanyb505 should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
With the c8r seemingly around the corner, I expect the current get ruleset to be around for a few more years, and free of gt3 cars during that time.

For some reason BMW have thought it worthwhile to continue gte racing in North America, even when they didn't actually have a purpose built gte car. With the m8 battleship, I expect them to continue through the end of that car's life cycle.

Ford, being the most specialized, don't see them lasting through 2020 competitively.

I'd also expect Ferrari and Porsche to drop gte at the end of their car's cycles, in that order.

Meaning corvette is one of the last cars in the top gt class. Once there is no one left to beat stateside AND Le Mans, only then will a new ruleset comes into play.
seanyb505 is online now  
Quote
Reply

Bookmarks




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sebring 2019 Bill38 North American Racing 31 7 Jan 2018 13:47
IMSA Site Liz North American Racing 10 27 Jan 2003 23:22
IMSA Video nascarl North American Racing 1 20 Sep 2002 12:27
ALMS/IMSA Historic GTP - Elkhart Lake pictures Muzza Historic Racing Today 24 15 Jul 2002 03:33
IMSA Returns Craig North American Racing 1 5 Oct 2001 21:25


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2018 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.