LM24 Race 2018 Le Mans 24 Hours Race Thread - Page 11

seanyb505 · 13 Jun 2018, 22:30 (Ref:3829179)

Rebellion and smp are close enough that rebellion or smp can't afford a mistake. Toyota can afford quite a lot with pace and stint lengths. Quite a lot being maybe a 15 minute delay. But I feel no privateer p1 will run a faultless race, giving Toyota that much more space.

chernaudi · 13 Jun 2018, 22:43 (Ref:3829181)

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Originally Posted by EffectiveSprinkles

I'm really not too bothered about it. And the speed of SMP is very encouraging as well, if Toyota fires off into the distance we look to be set for a great battle for the last podium step at the very least.

Rebellion and SMP are definitely close enough that Toyota can't afford a single mistake, and that's really already pretty good in my opinion.

And that's what the ACO, LM and the WEC need until the new regs go into effect.

Articus · 13 Jun 2018, 22:44 (Ref:3829182)

Is Matteo Cairoli a Porsche factory driver? If not, he's certainly made a name for himself thus far.

Juntos · 13 Jun 2018, 23:03 (Ref:3829188)

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Originally Posted by Articus

Is Matteo Cairoli a Porsche factory driver? If not, he's certainly made a name for himself thus far.

No. He is one of them: https://www.porsche.com/internationa...ivers/cairoli/

broadrun96 · 13 Jun 2018, 23:56 (Ref:3829191)

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Originally Posted by Yuri G.

Anyone knows why GTE moved to white headlights?

Fehan made a presentation that showed visibility improvements were huge with white lights and I believe the reflection was better as well. Tradition lost to safety on that end

Articus · 14 Jun 2018, 00:29 (Ref:3829194)

Is there a night practice gallery somewhere?

As a driver in a GTE pro car, what does it feel like to lap Le Mans 3-5 seconds faster than you did at the test day? Is it really that easy to just have an on off switch to the tune of 5 seconds? That must feel like an eternity around the track. As if you've been switched from LMP1 to LMP2....

nkoske · 14 Jun 2018, 04:32 (Ref:3829203)

Toyota is not even trying. Look at the Best Sector times here:
http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/
Both the #7 and #8 have identical "Ideal" and "Best" lap times...they went for exactly one "fast" lap and are up almost 2 sec.

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1 8 Toyota Gazoo Racing LMP1 H 3:17.270 3:17.270 (1)
2 7 Toyota Gazoo Racing LMP1 H 3:17.377 3:17.377 (2)
3 17 SMP Racing LMP1 3:19.070 3:19.483 (3)
4 1 Rebellion Racing LMP1 3:19.209 3:19.662 (4)
5 3 Rebellion Racing LMP1 3:19.945 3:19.945 (5)
6 10 Dragonspeed LMP1 3:20.254 3:21.110 (6)
7 11 SMP Racing LMP1 3:20.750 3:21.408 (7)
8 4 Bykolles Racing Team LMP1 3:20.911 3:22.505 (8)
9 48 Idec Sport LMP2 3:24.946 3:24.956 (9)
10 28 TDS Racing LMP2 3:25.240 3:25.240 (10)

TF110 · 14 Jun 2018, 05:30 (Ref:3829209)

I think everyone is holding back. Let's hope the weather plays nice and we can get some guys out there to gun it.

XtC24 · 14 Jun 2018, 06:12 (Ref:3829211)

Looks like only Toyota improved their times significantly from free practice in q1.
So I expect a closer fight in the next sessions.
If the weather is Right.

GregUK · 14 Jun 2018, 06:25 (Ref:3829213)

Who has the script for this year's race?

How far will the Toyotas go this year?

Will the second Manor Ginetta complete more than a lap?

XtC24 · 14 Jun 2018, 07:42 (Ref:3829217)

I'll go with scenario similiar to 2014. One Toyota repaired after driver error (own Or other)will reach the finish on podium(2 nd Or third)
The other will break down in the night.
Rebellion wins.

But I hope that all cars would get trouble and the fastest team in repairs would win.
The lead would change multiple times.
No proper retirements.
That could be exciting.

In the end I hope the 7 would nail It.
But It is impossible imo

In GTE I wish for close fight od Porsche and Ford plus Ferrari trying hard to join them.

Badlands99 · 14 Jun 2018, 10:10 (Ref:3829236)

Interesting that Toyota also got pinged for excess fuel usage ......

Could make for some arguments come race day if there are a few long stop and goes handed out early on.

Pleased to see the general reliability of both BR1 and Rebellions - a couple of the in-car shots of Jani, Lotterer and Button made for pretty good viewing. Jani especially looked pretty quick as usual.

Badlands99 · 14 Jun 2018, 10:35 (Ref:3829241)

Fairly typical of the BBC I guess...……….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/44465899

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Jun 2018, 11:01 (Ref:3829246)

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Originally Posted by Badlands99

Fairly typical of the BBC I guess...……….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/44465899

Nakajima's got the #8 Toyota he shares with Fernando Alonso and Sebastien Buemi on provisional pole.

Mountain Man · 14 Jun 2018, 11:23 (Ref:3829254)

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Originally Posted by Yuri G.

Anyone knows why GTE moved to white headlights?

Because the yellow ones were rubbish. It was a bit silly they had fantastic lights on the cars as built, yet had to darken them and make them worse.

**joeb** · 14 Jun 2018, 11:44 (Ref:3829259)

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Originally Posted by Badlands99

Interesting that Toyota also got pinged for excess fuel usage ......

Could make for some arguments come race day if there are a few long stop and goes handed out early on.

Pleased to see the general reliability of both BR1 and Rebellions - a couple of the in-car shots of Jani, Lotterer and Button made for pretty good viewing. Jani especially looked pretty quick as usual.

I'm hoping the race doesn't turn into a parade of penalties for excess fuel usage. That would sour things a bit for me. Or perhaps it would make it super interesting, I have know idea at this point. I guess it would depend on the cars involved and the timing. Could keep the P2's in the fray.

Badlands99 · 14 Jun 2018, 12:30 (Ref:3829269)

I guess that I am little split as to what I want to see ...........

Part of me thinks that Toyota deserve a little bit of luck and finally nail one ....... BUT ........ I really don't want to see a stage managed procession with no one else allowed to get anywhere near them. This is supposed to be a race, not one team's benefit no matter how much ££££ they have thrown at it.

And in GTE Pro, if the ACO are going to continue to mess around with the BoP then they need to give everybody a fighting chance - adding 10kgs to the M8 and the Corvette that already appeared to be a long way off the pace, whist leaving the already dominant Porsche alone really doesn't appear to make a lot of sense to the average guy in the street!

kyoung · 14 Jun 2018, 13:26 (Ref:3829282)

Is it too late for Corvette Racing to switch to the AM class, they would be pretty competitive there at 2 and 3?

Juntos · 14 Jun 2018, 13:37 (Ref:3829283)

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Originally Posted by kyoung

Is it too late for Corvette Racing to switch to the AM class, they would be pretty competitive there at 2 and 3?

How about Aston Marting Racing?

Akrapovic · 14 Jun 2018, 13:39 (Ref:3829287)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

How about Aston Marting Racing?

They can run in the Road to Le Mans support race

AndyN · 14 Jun 2018, 14:46 (Ref:3829299)

Interesting that Paddy Power have the two Toyotas at 10/11 and 11/8, down through the other P1s, e.g. the Bykolles at 70/1 and the two Ginettas at 125/1.

Only discovered this when I went to place a small bet on Germany, I mean England, in the footie...

kyoung · 14 Jun 2018, 14:47 (Ref:3829300)

Is there any GTE Pro that can’t do 14 laps on tires and fuel? Who suffers the most on the 14 lap max stints?

chernaudi · 14 Jun 2018, 15:09 (Ref:3829302)

Based on theoretical best lap times, Rebellion should hopefully be capable of 3:18s, which is reasonably close to what Toyota so far have turned.

It should be noted that one Toyota did 342km/h during FP1, with the SMP BR1s also quick, but the Rebellions are down on top speed. Combined with their sector 1/3 times, that shows that they're carrying a ton of downforce.

TF110 · 14 Jun 2018, 16:05 (Ref:3829311)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Based on theoretical best lap times, Rebellion should hopefully be capable of 3:18s, which is reasonably close to what Toyota so far have turned.

It should be noted that one Toyota did 342km/h during FP1, with the SMP BR1s also quick, but the Rebellions are down on top speed. Combined with their sector 1/3 times, that shows that they're carrying a ton of downforce.

That was on lap 10 of an 11 lap stint, but the lap time was only a 3:26 where they did 342kmh. No other lap from them in practice reached 340kmh.

airbusA346 · 14 Jun 2018, 17:00 (Ref:3829324)

Green flag for Q2.

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