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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:27 (Ref:3791060)   #46
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S395 wrote yesterday that the Multimatic/Rilay was still using the old mechanical configuration. What about the aero? The car can't pass the 185 mph barrier.
most of the extra drag is generated by that lmp3 sized windscreen
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:36 (Ref:3791061)   #47
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most of the extra drag is generated by that lmp3 sized windscreen
Yeah, but last year the same car was was able to reach 192.9 mph, so what's going on this year? It's almost an 8 mph difference.
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:40 (Ref:3791062)   #48
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ok 193mph, but what time was marked on that lap?

draft and 0 downforce from wings and you can get easily insane top speeds.... look at dallara lmp2 last year at le mans.... 340km/h on straight, barely could stay on the road at porsches
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 20:52 (Ref:3791064)   #49
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ok 193mph, but what time was marked on that lap?

draft and 0 downforce from wings and you can get easily insane top speeds.... look at dallara lmp2 last year at le mans.... 340km/h on straight, barely could stay on the road at porsches
The car was faster last year at every practice and race, and even got a higher top speed.


December Test 2016
1:39.804 Top Speed=194.7 mph

Roar January 2017
1:39.903 Top Speed=187.0 mph
1:38.922 Top Speed=188.0 mph

Race January 2017
1:39.183 Top Speed=192.9 mph

Roar January 2018
1:40.589 Top Speed=185.9 mph

Would be they using more rear wing because the drivers?
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 21:03 (Ref:3791066)   #50
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Would be great to see the GTLM pole winner down into the 1 42s by the 24 weekend. I feel that the 24 hour race qualifying times will be faster than the Roar "qualifying" times that we'll get on Saturday.

But there have been some consistencies about the practice sessions so far. In prototype the Cadillacs and Oreca 07s are up on top. GTLM has been Ford with Porsche and Ferrari right behind them, then Corvette. BMW trailing significantly by GTLM standards. In GTD, Mathay Porsche looking very very good so far.
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 21:12 (Ref:3791070)   #51
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Don't know where is actually placed the daytona speed trap, next to brake point like spa or far from it like silverstone; but taking for genuine the speed shown by this HUD, last year riley lmp2 in no draft condition, basically wasn't able to go beyond 186mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTeOFIAfCaw
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 21:16 (Ref:3791072)   #52
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Anyway, a SoR driver last year revealed that the car was terribly loose on rear and lacked of overall stiffness. Perphas the team had to load wings to have a decent balance and stability
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Old 6 Jan 2018, 21:28 (Ref:3791078)   #53
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Anyway, a SoR driver last year revealed that the car was terribly loose on rear and lacked of overall stiffness. Perphas the team had to load wings to have a decent balance and stability
They are still using the old suspension, because the new parts (suspension arms, bellhousing, dampers/springs, used on the Mazda) didn't arrive in time for this car for the Roar, however they are using the new aero. Maybe the new aero needs the new suspension to work fine, and the current convination of new aero with old suspension makes the car performance even worse than last year.

Who knows, I'll wait for the practice's note.
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 01:54 (Ref:3791116)   #54
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Good to see both Mazdas under 1:40, and the #77 posted a 1:38.1.
Still off the pace, I'm not really optimistic for the race and that's without discussing the AER timebomb in the back. Hopefully they inherit the Joest good luck and gain some speed.
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 02:11 (Ref:3791119)   #55
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I'm just looking for progress here.

Besides, who, other than Cadillac, is actually "on the pace"?
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 05:03 (Ref:3791137)   #56
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I'm just looking for progress here.

Besides, who, other than Cadillac, is actually "on the pace"?
Oreca is the closest, again. I don't expect much from Mazda or the Riley. I thought IMSA dictates the wing angles? Maybe they'll let Mazda run the rear wing flat if that's the case.
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 10:16 (Ref:3791164)   #57
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Ok flat wings and they will get some top speed for sure, but they will got just that....

I like simple answers to simple questions:

1) do you want the best lmp2?
buy an oreca

2) do you want the best looking lmp2?
buy a ligier

3) do you like dallara too?
buy it but be sure to put your hands on the caddy package

4) what about riley?
just garbage

do you recall this pic?


guess there is enough room for riley lmp2 too close to some dumpster
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 11:34 (Ref:3791174)   #58
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Hate to sound cynical, but Joest never had parts supply issues when he was with Audi and Porsche.
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Old 7 Jan 2018, 15:37 (Ref:3791203)   #59
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They are still using the old suspension, because the new parts (suspension arms, bellhousing, dampers/springs, used on the Mazda) didn't arrive in time for this car for the Roar, however they are using the new aero. Maybe the new aero needs the new suspension to work fine, and the current convination of new aero with old suspension makes the car performance even worse than last year.

Who knows, I'll wait for the practice's note.
I quote myself to correct. Yesterday the Multimatic was already using the new rear suspension. So, maybe they are starting from zero with the setup.

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Old 7 Jan 2018, 15:54 (Ref:3791206)   #60
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Hello my dear friends, please donít shout at me but is there no stream for the qualifying? Seems strange if so since the cameras and equipment were set up for the prototype race yesterday.
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