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5 Jul 2007, 17:52 (Ref:1955437) | #1 | ||
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Best way to equalise RWD and FWD starts
Just saw from the SWC-TC that they have resticted the revs for the Audi Quatros to only 5000 rpm in the starts, wich means they will bog down and cant get the same jump at the start as they used to.
Why dont FIA use the same in the S2000 regs? Limit the RWD cars to something like 5000 rpm or whatever they find makes the starts most equal, that way the BMWs would also bog down in the starts and would get the same starts as the FWD cars. Then they can skip all this standing starts or rolling starts, weightpenalties for compensating for better starts and so on. What do you think? Works good in WSC, exept that the lack of wheelspin and huge tracktion from 4WD makes the Audis twist their engine mauntings... But thats not the point. |
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How do you police that and at what point does the "start" finish? Easy enough to have a fixed rev limiter but one limit for the first 100 mtrs and another for the rest of the race seems like an impossible ask.
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I'd guess as soon as they drop the clutch the rev is free (or 8500rpm), but by then the car has already boged down. I guess you'd have to ask the SWC-TC guys exactly how it works.
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It's called a rolling start
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6 Jul 2007, 16:25 (Ref:1956328) | #5 | ||
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Wouldn't the best way to equalize it all be to mandate RWD only?
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6 Jul 2007, 16:51 (Ref:1956354) | #6 | |
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In rally S2000 they rebuild FWD cars to AWD. Why do they not rebuild all FWD cars to RWD?
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The performance of the cars don't match the production vehicles (the incredible amount of handouts & rule breaks which don't follow the rules, success ballast etc..) for the sake of the spectacle of the series, so why should the end that drives the car matter then whether it's like the production vehicle?
And as mentioned above by FIRE, in rallying Super 2000 vehicles are converted to 4WD. |
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The best way to equalise it is for the FWD runners to shutup whingeing for once in their lives and instead try to develop better starting systems or move to RWD (obviously not usually possible, but what the heck).
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Well, the thing about touring car racing is that the cars are so different from the start - but the racing gets close despite that. I think rolling start is a excellent way to equalising it - its equal for them both.
Trying to regulate start RPM's sounds overkill... |
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Don't equalise anything - let manufacturers build affordable rwd cars if they want a base for a competetive touring car ...
Of course that won't happen, but it would be in keeping with the spirit of touring car racing. NPP |
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