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And no, a comment from Neveu expressed displeasure and a backhanded well we see where we sit to IMSA comment after IMSA told them Petit wasn't moving. Which if they bothered to report, it's exactly what they told the WEC when the subject was broached over a month ago. And yet he acted like they have asked and IMSA was considering a move, they were NOT. |
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I'm sure IMSA considered a move but found out pretty quickly it was practically impossible at this point.
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As Akrapovic said, let the ACO screw themselves or to bend over backwards for once next time something like this happens. I doubt that IMSA really gives a damn if the ACO decide to back out of Sebring in much the same way that the ACO probably don't give a damn about the PLM/Fuji date clash.
The current ACO administration, who I've had a beef with since they came in after 2008, have made some wise moves recently, especially with LMP1, but we've still yet to see if the BOP is right there or not. And yes, I believe that the ACO and IMSA should be on the same page basically as when Don Panoz ran the show, but that's a case there I'd argue of Panoz tiring of giving a crap about IMSA and the ACO after his team won GT2 at LM in '06, as Panoz achieved what he wanted to achieve all along. Of course, this is what sometimes bores and tires me about motorsports and sports in general. I go to them to try and escape from politicking and the BS of the real world, but that same crap finds it own way in to ruin that, too. But I also agree with Akrapovic. At this stage, IMSA telling the ACO/WEC to buzz off from Sebring is an equally stupid answer to a stupid problem the ACO and the FIA created. |
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What happens if Alonso is atop the WEC standings after five races heading into Sebring but the Sebring date clashes with the start of the F1 season? You really think that the ACO/WEC and Toyota wouldn't want to make it so Alonso could race either by change the date of Sebring or when that doesn't happen, racing someplace else instead on a date that works for Alonso?
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WEC can do whatever they want, the date for the Sebring 12H 2019 is not gonna change.
Now, if the above painted scenario would become reality, it would be typically WEC arrogance to schedule a replacement event at the same weekend as Daytona in, let's say, Mexico City. |
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IMO, they never could be trusted. They were always more "actively competing with" ALMS than they were partners under the ACO/sportscar banner. There have been around 10 IMSA/ALMS races a year and 6-8 WEC races per year. That's 18 weeks out of 50 (exclude Christmas and one other for holiday-sake). Make it work. Broken down even further, if Daytona, Sebring and Petit are the major ones you want to avoid, that's 9-11 weeks out of 50 that need to be separated. If you can't work that out, and consider traditional dates, then you are a competitor moreso than someone to trust.
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The Ginetta was announced months before Porsche's withdrawal(January and July 2017 respectively), and Dallara had been rumored to be working on something around a month before he Porsche announcement. All the ACO had to do was work out if any parity should be applied to the Toyotas. |
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Yes, that's running back to them. Ignored when they were rolling in Audi and Nissan money, and then made sure they could be competitive once the big teams left. I never said the Porsche announcement was the tipping point. |
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All the ACO did was adapt to how the situation changed. Which is exactly with the separate hybrid and non-hybrid P1 rules were created to allow for. Quote:
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"The rules are the same, except the BoP". It's the same, except how they're applied. Very good.
You keep talking about Porsche and how projects were in the works, as if I've implied that the sudden change of direction from the ACO was in reaction to Porsche. I didn't say that. If you want to continue that, there's an ACO forum for it. This is the IMSA forum, and IMSA shouldn't change anything just because the WEC is sucking up to one person and disregarding everybody else. Again. |
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On behalf of all others here, thank you Akrapovic for leaving it at this.
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http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/mi...or-imsa-teams/
This should also make it easier for non US based P2 teams to come over and make guest appearances in IMSA* * provided the blue blazer scheduling department in Paris is on their A-game. |
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