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Old 29 Jan 2004, 22:59 (Ref:855742)   #101
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Currently there are
8 CARE F550
5 FFC F575GTC
2 WIETH F550
3 ITALTECNINCA GT F550
2 ITALTECNINCA N-GT F550
2 FFC F550
I have to ask, what does FFC stand for? Ferrari Factory Cars? That is all I could come up with, and I don't think they made any racing 550s. :confused:

Also, did XL-Racing build their own N-GT F550, or buy one of Italtecninca's cars?

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Old 30 Jan 2004, 16:40 (Ref:856585)   #102
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Built their own as far as I know, I maybe corrected though.
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 13:48 (Ref:857571)   #103
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Where did u hear that Panoz.lmp1? I certainly hope that, that is true but Ive not read anywhere that Freisinger will run 3 cars, just the 2.
I´m not sure where i heard that. I mean that was an information of YUKOS GT.
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 13:50 (Ref:857574)   #104
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Zwanns Racing will return this year, not with one Viper, but with two of the beasts! They have been concentrating on getting more grip,cornering speed and braking points.

Glad to see this team returning

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Old 31 Jan 2004, 13:56 (Ref:857575)   #105
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Even bigger news is that new team GPC Squadra Corse will enter two Ferrari 575M this year. No drivers announced yet but its reported it might be some of these: Christian Pescatori, Fabio Babini, Phillip Peter, Fabrizio De Simone.

The team will only receive these cars shortly before Monza though so they won't have much time to learn the cars.


So we get MORE Ferrari's! This season looks very very promising!

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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:01 (Ref:857579)   #106
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Three of this years Lister drivers have been annouced:

In one car:- Jamie Campbell-Walter/Paul Knapfield

In the other:- Nathan Kinch/TBA

One of the cars will be a new car built for this season while the other will be upgraded.
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:01 (Ref:857580)   #107
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Just reading a press release on the RWS Yukos website and in the latter half of the press release the team state that it is likely that they will step up into the GT class of the FIA GT championship this year, although no car has been decided, see this link for more details. http://www.yukosgt.com/en/news/news_article.php3?id=138

Great news for the championship, on top of hearing GPC Squadra course is joining the championship with 2 Ferrari 575's, the FIA GT season is going to be MASSIVE!
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:06 (Ref:857583)   #108
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I agree Saleen.

Wonder what car RWS Yukos will be involved in if they do step up. Only more entrants will increase the spectacle further, this season really is going to be MASSIVE

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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:18 (Ref:857594)   #109
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Just noticed one small thing too, the FIA GT championship will change its name to "FIA GT World championship" as pointed out by this press release. http://www.yukosgt.com/en/news/news_article.php3?id=138 This is due to the championship now visiting 3 continents, Europe, Asia (China), United Arab Emirates (Beijing)therefore meeting the requirements to be a FIA sanctioned world championship. More good news for the series then! The question is now will FIA GT have to turn away potential entrants? The maximum grids for FIA GT are 36, and 2 additional entries from the host nation, will be intresting to see if we have full grids this year.
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:21 (Ref:857598)   #110
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Does you know the track limits? How much cars are allowed on the FIA-GT TRacks. Oschersleben must be the shortest track.
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Entry limits are 38 cars in total for normal championship races, and a maximum of 65 entrants for the Spa 24hrs. (as they use the old and new pits for the Spa 24hrs).
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:25 (Ref:857600)   #112
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Yes, thats the limit of the regulations. But whats the limit of the tracks? I´m sure that there are a lot of races at Oschersleben with more than 40 cars. Why don´t increase the FIA the number of cars in the regulation.
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:33 (Ref:857605)   #113
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I think the main reason as to why there arent more cars on track at the same time is because theres a limited number of garages at each track, dont forget the FIA GT and the ETCC share the allotment of garages, if the FIA GT series ever breaks away from the ETCC though we could well see bigger grids.
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:37 (Ref:857608)   #114
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Hmmm, ok... thats right! So we have the problem that we have more cars than space at the tracks. What are we doing with the teams who are not accepted? Are all these teams going to the LMES? Or did we need a second league for GT´s like the NASCAR system... *DREAM* ;-))
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Old 31 Jan 2004, 14:43 (Ref:857611)   #115
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Last year FIA GT didnt have the problem with having to turn away entries, they were close to full grids at times, around 3 or 4 entries short normally but the issue never arrived, I think. As for a second leauge for GT's, yes Ive thought along the same lines myself, same regulations as FIA GT but with a promotion/relegation system, the series Id use would be the Euro GT series, ideally with cars from the FFSA, British GT, Spanish GT, Belcar, series. But we dont live in a ideal world.

Still the entries that are turned away from the FIA GT will no doubt race in the LMES and national championships such as Belcar, British GT, Spanish GT and FFSA. To be honest though if u think about it the teams that will be in GT/NGT of the LMES will not all be of the same standard of those in FIA GT, some of the teams will of course and some will race in both series but FIA GT would have more strength in depth if u ask me, so in essence we now have a second leauge GT/NGT series, which just happens to race alongside the top LMP 1 and LMP 2 class cars of Europe.
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Ok, here is an updated POSSIBLE entry list. Some of these are confirmed, some look very strong to enter and some may never make it past this discussion forum! I've looked at news items from various places and added what has been said on this thread to come up with this:

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2 x Lister Storms, Lister Racing
1 x Lister Storm, Creation Autosportif
2 x Ferrari 550s, BMS Scuderia Italia
1 x Ferrari 550, Care Racing
3 x Ferrari 575's, JMB Racing
2 x Ferrari 575's, GPC Squadra Corse
1 x Ferrari 550, Weith Racing
2 x Saleen S7R's, Ray Mallock Limited
2 x Saleen S7R's, Konrad Motorsport
2 x Lambourgini Murcielago's, Reiter Engineering
2 x Chrysler Viper, Zwaans Racing
1 x Chrysler Viper, Roos Optima Racing Team
2 x Maserati MCC, Maserati (selected events)
1 x Saleen S7R, Graham Nash Motorsport (?)
2 x Pagani Zonda's, Force One (?)
2 x Ferrari 550’s, DAMS (?)

N-GT

2(3?) x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Freisinger Motorsport
2 x Ferrari 360 GTC, JMB Racing
2 x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Emka Racing
2 x Ferrari 360 GTC, MenX Motorsport
2 x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Cirtek Motorsport
1 x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Proton Competition

1 or 2 x Gillet Vertigo Streiff, Gillet Automobiles (homologation issues)
2 x TVR’s, Synergy Motorsport (?)
2 x Porsche 911 GT3-RSR, Ebimotors (?)
1 x Porsche 911 GT3-RSR, Autorlando (?)
2 x Ferrari 360 GTCs, Yellow Racing (?)
2 x Ferrari 360 GTCs, Loris Kessel Racing (?)


RWS Motorsport???

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I agree with you that the FIA-GT and N-GT class are the #1 classes in Europe for these cars. I have the same thought for the EURO-GT. But there are a lot of drivers who love the EURO-GT because they can race their cars without restrictors and wihtout complete FIA homologation (Stealth B6, marcos LM600).
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2 x Ferrari 575's, GPC Squadra Corse
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They WANT but it´s currently only a rumour (that what i heard)
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2 x Maserati MCC, Maserati (selected events)
JMB will receive the MCC in October 2004. So only Dubai and Zhuhai are possible
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2 x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Emka Racing
2 x Ferrari 360 GTC, MenX Motorsport
2 x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Cirtek Motorsport
1 x Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, Proton Competition
I don´t believe that Emka and Proton will buy a RSR. For me it´s possible that EMKA will get one.
I heard that MenX wants to start only in the LMES
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2 x Porsche 911 GT3-RSR, Ebimotors (?)
1 x Porsche 911 GT3-RSR, Autorlando (?)
The will run their "old" R and RS.
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2 x Ferrari 575's, GPC Squadra Corse are confirmed.

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No, Maserati will enter the series as a Factory entrant for selected rounds, probably the Spa 24hrs. And then JMB will get the first customer cars.The GPC Squadra course entry is also confirmed, see this link. http://www.fiagt.com/newsitem.php?key=288
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No, Maserati will enter the series as a Factory entrant for selected rounds, probably the Spa 24hrs. And then JMB will get the first customer cars.The GPC Squadra course entry is also confirmed, see this link. http://www.fiagt.com/newsitem.php?key=288
OOOPS.... where was my brain in the last hours ....?
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In heaven! So much news and so much excitement! Hard to keep up with!

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Duffacus,

the list looks about right. I think the NGT class is the one with all the ?'s right now. we usually dont hear that much about those teams until closer to the season

Your GT list looks almost perfect. I think that Graham Nash wont run a saleen in fia gt. I think hes going to run 2 in BGT and LMES instead. Im still confused with the pagini deal, but i think if the car gets legalized, expect at least one on the grid (for Force One) maybe 2 more from Carsport Holland. DAMS and Labre are currently fighting over the rights to run the Care 550's in LMES. I dont think that either will run 550's in fia gt, since BMS is already here with 3 Care 550's.

For a full season, 36 car grid, heres my predictions (just for GT class)

GT - 22 Cars (that would leave 14 entries for NGT)

2 x Lister Storms, Lister Racing
1 x Lister Storm, Creation Autosportif
2 x Ferrari 550s, BMS Scuderia Italia
1 x Ferrari 550, Care Racing
3 x Ferrari 575's, JMB Racing
2 x Ferrari 575's, GPC Squadra Corse
1 x Ferrari 550's, Weith Racing
2 x Saleen S7R's, Ray Mallock Limited
2 x Saleen S7R's, Konrad Motorsport
2 x Chrysler Viper, Zwaans Racing
1 x Chrysler Viper, Roos Optima Racing Team
2 x Pagini Zonda's Carsport Holland
1 x Pagani Zonda, Force One


now of corse, the Lambo is supposed to run in the series starting at Brno. And the Maserati probably will make a debut at the Spa 24hrs (maybe?) Those cars wont be the fulltime teams, so i dont think it would be a problem later on in the season (noticed in 2003, after mid season, some of the NGT teams dropped out, that opened up some spaces for new teams to enter)

anyways, cant wait for the season to start. I think that Konrad and RML have a pretty good chance to win some races this year
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Strange, Id read in Autosport magazine a few weeks back that GNM are planning on racing 1 Saleen in FIA GT as well as cars in the LMES and British GT championship. :confused:

Oh and the Maserati is confirmed to race in the FIA GT championship this year, we just dont know WHEN, not if.

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GNM will be there with at least one car this year, It was reported a while back on DSC they would be running two Saleens here and one in LMES but I think its just one car in both now.
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