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Old 10 Oct 2012, 08:30 (Ref:3149239)   #421
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[QUOTE=James Murray;2498323]Dan


Not sure about the Meyrick car. I think its 782-2 which has a chequered history and covered here before but in short Paul Smith had 782-2 in early 80's and possibly 2 cars came out of one. There is another car in ZA with chassis plate 782-2. I think Meyrick has 782-12 which was ex Toleman and genuine and also a bitza that was built up by Bill Wood for hillclimbing with 783 tub, BDG and FT200.

I've just stumbled across this thread, and thought I would add a bit of history to the "iffy" 782 that I hillclimbed from 1988 to 2002.
As far as I know, Tom Hart wanted to build a hillclimber and went along to March at the end of the 1978 season and picked up a 783 tub, 782 suspension, 783 brakes, 782 body except for the sidepods which were 783, and a 782 rear wing.The nosecone was 792 and ugly.
He fitted a BDG on Webers and an FT200.
The car was sold to Billy MacMillan and then Bill Wood. Bill told me he found he didn't enjoy single seaters and went back to Mallock. He sold the car to David Keogh who sold it to me at Christmas 1987.
I had wanted a Pilbeam and sold my March 77b to fund it, but by the time I did, the Pilbeam was sold to someone else.
So in a bit of a hurry, because the 2litre class was being launched, I bought the March. The handling was iffy to begin with but a full width 782 nose cured that.
Over the next 14 years it provided great fun, some success including FTD at Shelsley, 2 championship wins in the 2 litre class and numerous class wins.
The issue about its provenance never arose until there were some historic F2 races and series.
If I had cared about its history or future value I suppose I could have removed the 783 chassis plate and passed it off as an unknown 782. It went via Paul Matty to Peach and then Meyrick, and I have no idea whether it still exists as an entity.
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Old 10 Oct 2012, 09:16 (Ref:3149266)   #422
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Thanks very much for that Chris - very helpful indeed.
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Hello all, and thanks for some interesting reading! I own a vintage race shop in the US, and we are restoring 78B-14. Do I understand correctly that this car is actually 782-14, just rebadged as 78B when it was converted from F2 to Atlantic BDD spec?
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Hello all, and thanks for some interesting reading! I own a vintage race shop in the US, and we are restoring 78B-14. Do I understand correctly that this car is actually 782-14, just rebadged as 78B when it was converted from F2 to Atlantic BDD spec?
No, the 782 and 78B cars were numbered separately. 782-14 was originally Eddie Cheever's F2 car, but, just to confuse everyone, it was later converted into a Formula Atlantic car and raced in the UK as a 78B.

78B/14 was sold to North America, and Chris and I at OldRacingCars.com have quite a bit of information on it, including various stamped numbers that will allow you to confirm its identity. Can you tell us about its recent ownership?
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The car is currently owned by Joe Blacker, and was previously owned by Holger Ahl, who Vintage raced 78B-14 for a number of years. I will get more info about Holgerís time with the car, as I am in touch with him regularly. Joe only drove the car once a few years ago after buying it from Holger, then took the motor out to have it freshened (by Hank Clarkson)- one project led to another, and our shop got the car as a disassembled project, and we are restoring it. We plan on running the car at Lime Rock in September. We would love to know all we could about this carís history- thanks
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The car is currently owned by Joe Blacker, and was previously owned by Holger Ahl, who Vintage raced 78B-14 for a number of years. I will get more info about Holgerís time with the car, as I am in touch with him regularly. Joe only drove the car once a few years ago after buying it from Holger, then took the motor out to have it freshened (by Hank Clarkson)- one project led to another, and our shop got the car as a disassembled project, and we are restoring it. We plan on running the car at Lime Rock in September. We would love to know all we could about this carís history- thanks
Very interesting. 78B-14 was originally an Ecurie Canada car, but people are always claiming EC cars, so we need to confirm that. Email me at allen@oldracingcars.com and we can discuss in more detail. I have become wary of posting too much on public forums.
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Old 10 Aug 2018, 20:22 (Ref:3842879)   #427
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I believe 29 were built, though whether or not that includes Keiji Matsumotoís Datsun-powered 782P I donít know. On top of that were 19 near-identical 782Bs, at least one of which raced in Asia with a Datsun engine, though most went to the US for F/Atlantic. Not to mention 11 Formula 3/FSV versions (783)
I used to keep detailed records of every single-seater chassis number I could find, but it got to be almost a fulltime job and I had backed off before the 782 was invented. Canít therefore help much with chassis numbers, apart from:
No.1 was the first (really), which Giacomelli drove at Donington late in 1977
No.9 was apparently raced by John Mortensen in the US in 1978
No.14 F2 1978, raced by Eje Elgh in Atlantic spec in NZ 1979
No.15 Bill Brack in Canadian Atlantic 1978
No.16 one of the 1978 works cars, raced by Teo Fabi in New Zealand Atlantic series 1979
Alas you are wrong with 782 - 1 being raced by Bruno at Donington it was in fact a 77P under the 782 bodywork running provisional running gear. How can i be so sure, my user name should give you a clue. I was the fabricator that made both the monocoques.

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