Bon Voyage JT! WSBK Rd. 13, Magny-Cours

jhansen · 4 Oct 2007, 04:43 (Ref:2030478)

Will he, or wont he? Before James Toseland can set off to pastures a new in Moto GP he has one more WSBK race weekend left to run. King James has a 29 point lead over the Roman Emperor Max Biaggi with Nitro Noriyuki Haga a further 4 points adrift. Troy Bayliss looks to add a win or two to his 2007 season while Troy Corser is deserpately seeking his first.

1 Toseland GBR 396
2 Biaggi ITA 367
3 Haga JPN 363
4 Bayliss AUS 341
5 Corser AUS 267
6 Lanzi ITA 192
7 Xaus ESP 187
8 Rolfo ITA 177
9 Neukirchner GER 136
10 Fabrizio ITA 123

Meanwhile in WSS Kenan Sofuoglu has already claimed the title. However, if he wins he can break the record for most wins in a season.

Gerben24 · 4 Oct 2007, 07:36 (Ref:2030539)

JH, I don't know if they show the brilliant Superstock1000 in the States, but the fight for the title is still going on, the top 4 riders, can still clinch the title:

1 Baiocco ITA 146
2 Canepa ITA 145
3 Simeon BEL 138
4 Corti ITA 137
5 Aitchison AUS 121
6 Dionisi ITA 102
7 Pirro ITA 85
8 Van Keymeulen BEL 83
9 Roberts AUS 65
10 Mahr AUT 54

The fight for 2nd in the WSS is still undecided:

1 Sofuoglu TUR 251
2 Foret FRA 128
3 Parkes AUS 113
4 Fujiwara JPN 93
5 Roccoli ITA 84
6 Harms DEN 83
7 Jones GBR 78
8 Veneman NED 70
9 West AUS 66
10 Charpentier FRA 51

jhansen · 5 Oct 2007, 14:48 (Ref:2032070)

First Practice:

1 James Toseland 1:40.718
2 Michel Fabrizio 1:40.728
3 Troy Bayliss 1:40.731
4 Lorenzo Lanzi 1:40.928
5 Max Neukirchner 1:40.979
6 Noriyuki Haga 1:41.022
7 Fonsi Nieto 1:41.188
8 Troy Corser 1:41.194
9 Ruben Xaus 1:41.469
10 Regis Laconi 1:41.739
11 Roberto Rolfo 1:41.760
12 Karl Muggeridge 1:41.830
13 Max Biaggi 1:41.845
14 Y. Tiberio 1:42.382
15 Jakub Smrz 1:42.401

http://www.crash.net/news_view~cid~5~id~155404.htm

Qualifying 1:

1 Lorenzo Lanzi 1:40.962
2 Troy Bayliss 1:41.334
3 Noriyuki Haga 1:41.402
4 Fonsi Nieto 1:41.423
5 Troy Corser 1:41.425
6 Ruben Xaus 1:41.731
7 James Toseland 1:41.742
8 Regis Laconi 1:41.840
9 Karl Muggeridge 1:42.012
10 Michel Fabrizio 1:42.136
11 Roberto Rolfo 1:42.147
12 Jakub Smrz 1:42.376
13 Max Neukirchner 1:42.397
14 Max Biaggi 1:42.620
15 Y. Tiberio 1:43.132

http://www.crash.net/news_view~cid~5~id~155404.htm

jhansen · 5 Oct 2007, 14:53 (Ref:2032076)

Kenan Sofuoglu led the WSS session over Tommy Hill, David Checa, Broc Parkes, and Fabien Forbet.

However, Sebastien Charpentier took provisional pole over Broc Parkes, Kenan Sofuoglu, Gianluca Vizziello, and Massimo Roccoli.

cg7aa · 5 Oct 2007, 14:54 (Ref:2032077)

Fingers crossed, Nori can grad second place in the championship. Nothing against The Roman Emperor of course, I just like Nori more!

**gomick** · 5 Oct 2007, 21:23 (Ref:2032389)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cg7aa

Fingers crossed, Nori can grad second place in the championship. Nothing against The Roman Emperor of course, I just like Nori more!

maybe nori could be world champion for you aswell

must be the final round, lorenzo lanzi has come good

**gomick** · 6 Oct 2007, 13:44 (Ref:2032883)

Superstock 1000 qualifying times - 6 tenths between the top 10

.... for those who get to see this race, enjoy

1 D.Van Keymeulen 1:43.737
2 C.Corti 1:43.804
3 M.Smrz 1:43.884
4 A.Badovini 1:43.900
5 N.Canepa 1:43.921
6 L.Scassa 1:44.167
7 M.Aitchison 1:44.237
8 I.Dionisi 1:44.241
9 X.Simeon 1:44.352
10 B.Roberts 1:44.361

Knowlesy · 7 Oct 2007, 12:16 (Ref:2033876)

Congratulations to Lanzi, who's first corner theatrics nearly unseated JT who somehow stayed on the bike for a decent haul of points.

Not comfortable though this, by any means.

Gerben24 · 7 Oct 2007, 17:37 (Ref:2034156)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Congratulations to Lanzi, who's first corner theatrics nearly unseated JT who somehow stayed on the bike for a decent haul of points.

Hey, that's superbike racing! Remember what happened to Haga in Misano?

The Superbike races were really hard today, it is due to the track layout according to the two Troys. I think Troy Corser will be really bruished, how may times was he touched? He had some battles coming out of the Aidelaide hairpin, going into the Nurburgring chicane.

The races were brilliant, I think it has been the best championship this year (better than Motogp, F1, etc, etc).

Anybody see the Superstock 1000 race? Corti lost this championship in the last lap, maybe even in the last corner combination! If he'd won the race, which he nearly did, he'd be champion now!

chunder · 7 Oct 2007, 18:20 (Ref:2034202)

Well the bugger made us work for it and I'm sure he hated having to ride like that bit for me the bike has looked awful in the recent rounds, seems they are having terrible problems with the TC system and to me JT looked like he was riding with it turned off in the second race! Thats why he was so hesitant.

Shame for Nori, thought he deserved the title in many ways, that Biaggi idiocy at Misano looks really bad now!

Trox · 7 Oct 2007, 23:42 (Ref:2034485)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerben24

I think it has been the best championship this year (better than Motogp, F1, etc, etc).

I agree with that 100%. Having only just got to see todays races on the Eurosport highlights show, I was thinking the very same thing when it ended.

So glad that JT did it, some really good aggressive riding that has had me lean forward in my chair with a big "oooooooh", on many an occasion this season.

Gerben24 · 8 Oct 2007, 07:26 (Ref:2034668)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunder

the bike has looked awful in the recent rounds, seems they are having terrible problems with the TC system

Weird thing was, he got the double at Brands, so no probs there. Then in Germany he had a tyre issue in race 1 and had a good pace in race 2. Last week he dropped it at Vallelunga practice and they never got the TC sorted again. In Magny Cours he was really quick in the practice sessions and his Superpole lap was mega (with a very weird 'stutter' slight in the first right hander). During race 1 he was the quickest guy out there at a certain point, so I think he could have run with Haga. But what happened in race 2 I don't know. Maybe it were nerves. I think JT and TK have themself to blame for looking that bad in the last rounds.

However, I'm pretty sure Ten Kate will miss JT next year. They will have a new bike with (I think) two WSB rookie riders...

cg7aa · 8 Oct 2007, 13:41 (Ref:2034946)

Nori looked somewhat disappointed in parc ferme didn't he? Perhaps it was the realisation of just how close he was in the final standings. The ifs and buts of motorsport are endless as someone once said, he might look back on Misano and rue the Max incident. Mind you, JT could say had he not had his retirement from race two in Donington, Nori's chances would have been somewhat slimmer going into the last meeting anyway. Ifs and buts...

Deep down, I feel this may have been Nori's last chance. JT may be out of the way next year, but methinks the 1200cc Bayliss will have underneath him may proof too much. I would be very happy to be proved completely wrong!

Whitham made a point on the Eurosport commentary that the Honda doesn't look that easy to ride compared to the Yahama. It will be interesting to see if anyone can extract the level of performance James was able to get out of the bike especially when it wasn't quite right. His superpole lap being a prime example.

Robin_D · 8 Oct 2007, 14:07 (Ref:2034961)

What were the final point standings?

cg7aa · 8 Oct 2007, 14:10 (Ref:2034964)

1 Toseland GBR 415
2 Haga JPN 413
3 Biaggi ITA 397
4 Bayliss AUS 372
5 Corser AUS 296
6 Xaus ESP 201
7 Lanzi ITA 192
8 Rolfo ITA 192
9 Neukirchner GER 149
10 Laconi FRA 137

jhansen · 8 Oct 2007, 15:24 (Ref:2035022)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunder

Well the bugger made us work for it and I'm sure he hated having to ride like that bit for me the bike has looked awful in the recent rounds, seems they are having terrible problems with the TC system and to me JT looked like he was riding with it turned off in the second race! Thats why he was so hesitant.

I really doubt the bike has been awful. JT looked rather hesitant at the end of the season. But riding for the championship can have that effect. Hats off to him though and good luck to him in Moto GP! Maybe we'll see him back in WSBK in a few years...

Gerben24 · 8 Oct 2007, 15:26 (Ref:2035025)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cg7aa

Nori looked somewhat disappointed in parc ferme didn't he? Perhaps it was the realisation of just how close he was in the final standings. The ifs and buts of motorsport are endless as someone once said, he might look back on Misano and rue the Max incident. Mind you, JT could say had he not had his retirement from race two in Donington, Nori's chances would have been somewhat slimmer going into the last meeting anyway. Ifs and buts...

I know another ifs and buts, what if Nori hadn't had that stupid retirement in Assen, where he retired with a sensor failure, which cut out the bike? In the end JT deserved the championship and I enjoyed immensely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cg7aa

Whitham made a point on the Eurosport commentary that the Honda doesn't look that easy to ride compared to the Yahama. It will be interesting to see if anyone can extract the level of performance James was able to get out of the bike especially when it wasn't quite right. His superpole lap being a prime example.

I think especially Checa will be compared to JT next year. But next year will be a complete different ball-game. A new bike for Ten Kate, new Superbike rules and riders (for TK) that are new to the series/bike/circuits...

chunder · 8 Oct 2007, 21:21 (Ref:2035334)

In reply to J and others I remember the earlier rounds that JT has NEVER been a guy to ride around for points, he was very tentative in the last two rounds for me and I am sure I heard the guys saying that the team were having terrible trouble with TC and actually changed the entire system mid season from HRC to anotehr supplier! Thats quite a change mid season. Early season they hardly had a system at all and none in 06!!

Just cast your minds back to 03 and the battle he put up then, OK I know he needed to win, but Vallelunga surely he would have been going all out and the bike looked awful!! That crasked swingarm I reckoin really knocked his confidence and maybe from then on he was really un surefooted, certainly didnt look like the same James.

Every lap in to Chateau Deau I was expecting that front to fold, bloody nightmare!!

jhansen · 8 Oct 2007, 22:10 (Ref:2035360)

Chunder, I could give you all of that, except he AND that bike looked darn dominant early to mid season. The Honda is a solid platform. They have experienced some woes, but I think JT was thinking about the championship a bit too much. It's all mute though, because he's now a two-time champ.

**gomick** · 9 Oct 2007, 11:51 (Ref:2035806)

** Congrats to James Toseland on winning the World Superbike Championship

** Great speed shown over the final few rounds by Craig Jones in the Supersport class - Goodluck to Kenan Sofuoglu in the Superbike class in 2008

** Congrats to Ducati golden boy Niccolo Canepa on winning the Euro Superstock Championship

Final Euro Superstock 1000 Points...

1 Niccolo Canepa - 161
2 Claudio Corti - 157
3 Matteo Baiocco - 153
4 Xavier Simeon - 138
5 Mark Aitchison - 132

Gerben24 · 9 Oct 2007, 12:27 (Ref:2035829)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomick

Final Euro Superstock 1000 Points...

1 Niccolo Canepa - 161
2 Claudio Corti - 157

And it was oh so close. The result would have been different if Corti had crossed the finish line 0.085 seconds earlier...

Top 10 France:

1 Badovini A. Biassono Racing Team. MV Agusta F4 312 R 20'51.999 12
2 Corti C. Yamaha Team Italia. Yamaha YZF-R1 20'52.083 12
3 Canepa N. Ducati Xerox Junior Team. Ducati 1098S 20'53.070 12
4 Scassa L. MV Agusta. MV Agusta F4 312 R 20'54.415 12
5 Aitchison M. Celani Team Suzuki Italia. Suzuki GSX-R1000 K6 20'54.590 12
6 Foray F. Team Zone Rouge. Yamaha YZF-R1 20'55.351 12
7 Dionisi I. Cruciani Moto Suzuki Italia. Suzuki GSX-R1000 K7 20'55.647 12
8 Giuseppetti D. MGM Racing Performance. Yamaha YZF-R1 21'05.924 12
9 Baiocco M. Umbria Bike. Yamaha YZF-R1 21'06.174 12
10 Mahr R. Vd Heyden Motors Yamaha. Yamaha YZF-R1 21'06.345 12

Great stuff

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