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Old 4 Feb 2009, 21:03 (Ref:2388449)   #1
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Radical SR9 LMP2

Hello,

So far I have this on my records:

SR9-001: 2006 Rollcentre Racing

SR9-002: 2006-2008 Bruichladdich

SR9-004: 2006-2008 Van der Steur Racing

SR9-005: 2007 Embassy Racing

Any comments/corrections/ads?
I can't find anything on chassis 003. What happened with that chassis?
Only five cars were built?

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Old 5 Feb 2009, 11:05 (Ref:2388924)   #2
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Sorry to say, but there is a major fault in your list. The Embassy-Radical is neither #5, it’s the original Rollcentre chassis.

You have also to add the ECO SR10´s as they are using the same line of chassis numbers.
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Old 5 Feb 2009, 13:59 (Ref:2389056)   #3
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Sorry to say, but there is a major fault in your list. The Embassy-Radical is neither #5, it’s the original Rollcentre chassis.

You have also to add the ECO SR10´s as they are using the same line of chassis numbers.
No - you're wrong Dauer, Brickyard is right. The original SR9 chassis, which was used for crash testing and then raced by rollcentre through 2006 was returned to Radical and the chassis supplied to embassy was indeed either 005 or 006 - probably 005, which had been manufactured as part of the original batch in 2006 at the same time as 006 , neither being built into a car. The embassy car was really a collection of spares/new parts supplied by rollcentre and built into the car around this chassis that then raced through 2007.

003 is the current Bruichladdich chassis - 002 was damaged and withdrawn after the nurburgring race in 2006 - the damage occuring before that at pembrey but not discivered until running at the ring made it much worse...

i guess that means the diesel is chassis 006, i dont know, no longer involved.

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Old 5 Feb 2009, 16:48 (Ref:2389170)   #4
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No - you're wrong Dauer, Brickyard is right. The original SR9 chassis, which was used for crash testing and then raced by rollcentre through 2006 was returned to Radical and the chassis supplied to embassy was indeed either 005 or 006 - probably 005, which had been manufactured as part of the original batch in 2006 at the same time as 006 , neither being built into a car. The embassy car was really a collection of spares/new parts supplied by rollcentre and built into the car around this chassis that then raced through 2007.

003 is the current Bruichladdich chassis - 002 was damaged and withdrawn after the nurburgring race in 2006 - the damage occuring before that at pembrey but not discivered until running at the ring made it much worse...

I guess that means the diesel is chassis 006, i dont know, no longer involved.

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Yes I found 006 to be the SR10 Diesel car. Didn't know about the damaged 002 to be replaced, but that makes sense.

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No - you're wrong Dauer, Brickyard is right. The original SR9 chassis, which was used for crash testing and then raced by rollcentre through 2006 was returned to Radical and the chassis supplied to embassy was indeed either 005 or 006 - probably 005, which had been manufactured as part of the original batch in 2006 at the same time as 006 , neither being built into a car. The embassy car was really a collection of spares/new parts supplied by rollcentre and built into the car around this chassis that then raced through 2007.

003 is the current Bruichladdich chassis - 002 was damaged and withdrawn after the nurburgring race in 2006 - the damage occuring before that at pembrey but not discivered until running at the ring made it much worse...

i guess that means the diesel is chassis 006, i dont know, no longer involved.

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That’s quite interesting. Because the Bruichladdich car was always listed as 002 ever since 2007. Even in the official ACO documents. So I assume chassis 003 was renumbered into 002, that sometimes happens.

Might also be that the Embassy car was renumbered also, but for this I have to check with my files out of 2007 again.
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That’s quite interesting. Because the Bruichladdich car was always listed as 002 ever since 2007. Even in the official ACO documents. So I assume chassis 003 was renumbered into 002, that sometimes happens.

Might also be that the Embassy car was renumbered also, but for this I have to check with my files out of 2007 again.
well we both know that there is often a big difference between what you will find quoted on official documents and the reality especially where race cars are concerned and in many respects this is one of the main reasons that forums like these exist!

if i were you i would update your lists to reflect the info i have given - its correct and comes from first hand knowledge from having been present in both instances and having an interest in seeing these things recorded accurately - o'wise i wouldnt visit here!

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well we both know that there is often a big difference between what you will find quoted on official documents and the reality especially where race cars are concerned and in many respects this is one of the main reasons that forums like these exist!

if i were you i would update your lists to reflect the info i have given - its correct and comes from first hand knowledge from having been present in both instances and having an interest in seeing these things recorded accurately - o'wise i wouldnt visit here!

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Of course you can´t rely 100% on the official documents, there are often mistakes in it.

But the story with chassis 002 and 003 is quite interesting. In all my files out of 2007 and 2008, from my own research and contributed by notable other sources, the Bruichladdich car is listed as 002. This is what led me to the assumption that the chassis 003 has been renumbered, it seams somehow strange that four or so different individuals continuously spot the wrong chassis number…..

As for the Embassy car, I have listed 001 for Monza and 005 from Valencia onwards, but according to your valuable information I think to Monza number is wrong.
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Of course you can´t rely 100% on the official documents, there are often mistakes in it.

But the story with chassis 002 and 003 is quite interesting. In all my files out of 2007 and 2008, from my own research and contributed by notable other sources, the Bruichladdich car is listed as 002. This is what led me to the assumption that the chassis 003 has been renumbered, it seams somehow strange that four or so different individuals continuously spot the wrong chassis number…..

As for the Embassy car, I have listed 001 for Monza and 005 from Valencia onwards, but according to your valuable information I think to Monza number is wrong.
the chassis numbering is as i indicated. i dont know who your notable other sources were, but it was me that 'scrapped' 002 after examining it and progressed the build of 003...

likewise i was designing the wf01 for embassy at the same time as they took delivery of 005. And thats the only car they had.

and you will find time and again that people copy what they read and perpetuate incorrect information - that is what you have had.

not a lot more i can do to help really, is there?

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