2017 Roar before the Daytona 24

[jimclark]

Yes, plenty of parking. Not all that many fans there (not expected to be tho'). At least a GAZILLION Boy Scout (or whatever they were; 'didn't ask) campers tho'.

[chernaudi]

Yep Fox, you're out of date on your info, given that Porsche Motorsport took him from Rebellion's LMP1 team at the end of the 2013 WEC season, and he's the only one of Porsche's defending champion drivers who's returning to the #1 Porsche next year after Leib's and Dumas' retirements to Porsche's non-driving operations. Bamber and Tandy will be replacing them, with Andre Lotterer replacing the also recently retired Mark Webber (Lotterer going to Porsche reportedly due to terms of his Audi Sport contract, as well as worries over if Toyota/TMG would pay him if he were allowed to drive for them, since Toyota Motorsport/TOMS reportedly hardly pays him anything for him driving for them in Super Formula).

Sorry for the long story, but Jani is the fastest man ever at LM as of 2015, he's the only one of the championship winning trio from the last WEC season's drivers' championship who'll be returning to Porsche as a race driver. Porsche Motorsport are only loaning him to Rebellion for Rebellion's limited IMSA schedule. And that could be for Daytona only unless Rebellion enter more than one car for Watkins Glen and PLM.

[Akrapovic]

Everybody knows "that Neel Jani guy", who everybody said was terrible just buys team kit on ebay and swans around the paddock pretending he's better than he is.

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by FormulaFox

Funny how I never see those people in motorsport forums anymore. Jani may not be running for a big factory team, but he's got a solid job and career going for him, and he's usually Rebellion's quickest driver.

I guess there must be some sort of parallel universe where he's the fastest driver in a multi-million euro factory team



Still. We can only dream

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

I guess there must be some sort of parallel universe where he's the fastest driver in a multi-million euro factory team

My sources say that'll never happen.

[Maelochs]

Not wanting to pile on (he said insincerely as he jumped atop the pile) but F Fox, if you are going to visit a sports car forum and tell everybody what's up .... you should know what's up.

That Neel Jani guy might have a good career ahead of him in sportscar racing ... if he can find a decent ride with an up-and-coming team once he quits that lame Porsche gig.

Once he gets past being ... you know, Champion of the World ... he might make something of himself .... inside sources say.

[jimclark]

That's enuff, Mae!!!

What's all this Jani stuff got to do with the Roar, anyway???

[10TENTHS]

Looks like the BoP on the Cadillac will be reversed if this is the "true" pace difference. The LMP2s can't be changed, per the ACO agreement.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by 10TENTHS

Looks like the BoP on the Cadillac will be reversed if this is the "true" pace difference. The LMP2s can't be changed, per the ACO agreement.

Says who? They were already ready to change the LMP2s and have changed aero and gear ratios I believe.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by 10TENTHS

Looks like the BoP on the Cadillac will be reversed if this is the "true" pace difference. The LMP2s can't be changed, per the ACO agreement.

The LMP2s are already running detuned, as per Gibson request. The rest of the grid was detuned to fit with the Gibson. So everything is already changed.

I don't think the BoP should be changed based on these results. The most developed car, with the reigning World Champion and Le Mans winner driving was top? That's not a surprise. The Caddy will find more time naturally, but Rebellion have by far the best driver line up, so this shouldn't be a surprise.

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by jimclark

What's all this Jani stuff got to do with the Roar, anyway???

Because he's at the Roar, and he's impressively quick. That was Formula Fox's original and entirely correct point, but that doesn't stop keyboard warriors such as myself joining in with some gentle joshing

Every single one of those Rebellion drivers are quick, and on pure speed alone I doubt any of the other teams can really hold a candle to their overall line-up. I fear the team will come unstuck in racing conditions though. Daytona is an incredibly tactical race, and a lack of experience racing there will cost them time. Their race craft is likely to be a little rusty too, given that they've effectively been racing themselves for a few years now.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Because he's at the Roar, and he's impressively quick. That was Formula Fox's original and entirely correct point, but that doesn't stop keyboard warriors such as myself joining in with some gentle joshing

Every singe one of those Rebellion drivers are quick, and on pure speed alone I doubt any of the other teams can really hold a candle to their overall line-up. I fear the team will come unstuck in racing conditions though. Daytona is an incredibly tactical race, and a lack of experience racing there will cost them time. Their race craft is likely to be a little rusty too, given that they've effectively been racing themselves for a few years now.

Plus, IMSA rules are a bit different to WEC. So you need to adapt to that, whilst the rest of the grid won't. Drivers should be fine though, as they've all been fully employed elsewhere with proper opponents.

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Plus, IMSA rules are a bit different to WEC. So you need to adapt to that, whilst the rest of the grid won't. Drivers should be fine though, as they've all been fully employed elsewhere with proper opponents.

Didn't mean race craft of the drivers, more the team as a whole. They'll be a little rusty on some things I should imagine.

But that's what I'm getting at. They've raced in America in the past, but this is still new territory for them. I'd put money on them claiming a convincing pole, but a podium would be good result for them.

[jimclark]

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Because he's at the Roar, and he's impressively quick. That was Formula Fox's original and entirely correct point, but that doesn't stop keyboard warriors such as myself joining in with some gentle joshing

'Twas a rhetorical question (Directed at Mae, by the way)

[chernaudi]

He's the quickest man at Daytona right now, and is (and probably will be for quite a while at least) the fastest man ever at Le Mans.

[jimclark]

"We have control of the horizontal. We have control of the vertical...."

[canamman]

This may be the last chance to see timing of some
of the Weathertech cars. A lot pack up and head out
before the afternoon session.
http://scoring.imsa.com/

RutRow- Mazda in the 38's !

[Akrapovic]

Red flag. But not before the times started dropping. Low 38s now for the 81 ORECA and Mazda. No representative time for a Caddy yet today.

[nasdriv87]

can the tires be changed this year??? while running in the rain??? or a GT can win in the rain!?!?!? conti to michelin or another one

for me this was the most ridiculous rule from yesterday!!!

[pafe]

Is there some kind of Liveticker? Did it start rain again or crash?

[10TENTHS]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

but Rebellion have by far the best driver line up, so this shouldn't be a surprise

That's partly because 50% of last year's top Prototype drivers are in GT now.

[nasdriv87]

Originally Posted by pafe

Is there some kind of Liveticker? Did it start rain again or crash?

here still under RF

green, green, green

[Damian Baldi]

Conway is showing his speed.

EDIT: Now Derani on the Nissan, let's see.

[fieldodreams79]

Don't see it posted here yet but Fassler had a nasty sounding incident in the Corvette.

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/fa...corvette-fire/

[Damian Baldi]

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Don't see it posted here yet but Fassler had a nasty sounding incident in the Corvette.

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/fa...corvette-fire/

I think that was the red flag of few minutes ago.