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Old 24 Mar 2004, 07:44 (Ref:917504)   #26
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 08:04 (Ref:917517)   #27
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I think both Raikonnen or Montoya are capable to challenge Schumacher, because they are already done it.

Are they capable to beat Schumacher? Yes, the are. Just give them the car that capable of it.

I am sure Alonso, if has the car that capable of it, also capable to beat Michael.

Are they going to beat Michael? We have to wait and see.

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Old 24 Mar 2004, 08:42 (Ref:917546)   #28
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It will be silly to think nobody can beat Michael. But the thing is that those who want to beat Michael have to depend more on other factors to make it possible. A better car/tyre package, favourable conditions and everything and hope that Michael got the exact opposite.

Of course, nobody can win every race all the time. Senna was beaten before, Prost tasted failure before, but the thing is that it's not frequent that they are beaten, nor is it shameful to be beaten by better package because at the end of the day, those people lost not because of them being the poorer driver.

Similarly, Michael can be beaten, JV had beaten him b4, Hill had beaten him b4, Mika had beaten him b4, Montoya had won races from him before, Kimi had won races from him before, Rubens had won races from him before. But at the end of the day, it's undisputed that Michael is still better than them. Nobody could provide a consistent challenge.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:02 (Ref:917578)   #29
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As we saw in 2003, if the car isn't the best, Schumacher is beatable.
2003 is not representative from any point of views. Of course he's beatable, but we knew that before. He has lost races before, he made stupid mistakes as well, nothing new here. But in 2003, just for the record, he won 6 races. In a car that wasn't the best. The others won 1 or 2 each. That's not challenge. The only one who seriously challenged him was Mika Hakkinen. 4 consecutive seasons if we count 1999 too.

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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:04 (Ref:917581)   #30
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only Michael Schumacher can beat Michael Schumacher. Michael is simply in a league of his own, where these days the only fight he got on his hands is crappy tyres and age.

JV beat MS in one year!! Michael spent the next five years wayyyyyy ahead of JV. Mika chickened out, while he had the bols, the competition was good. still the McLaren of 98, and 99 was much better than the ferrari and still Michael made Mika earn those WDC's.

nope apart from Mark Webber, i really don't see any other driver in the same class of Michael Schumacher.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:05 (Ref:917583)   #31
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Yes, its be silly to think nobody can beat Michael.

Kimi almost beat Michael in inferior car last year. Yes, almost, but its proven that he has capability to beat Michael. In equal car, may be he had beat Michael.

And Juan, Juan theorically had beat Michael last year IF the car didn't break down twice.

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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:06 (Ref:917584)   #32
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He's the best ever...so, whoever thinks that any current driver can beat him.....keep on dreaming!
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:12 (Ref:917594)   #33
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He is STILL be the best from his generations. And I well keep dreaming. Hoping the dream come true.

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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:13 (Ref:917597)   #34
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Are they capable to beat Schumacher? Yes, the are. Just give them the car that capable of it.

see bud, therein lies the crux of the matter. KR and JPM need to be given a good car. when Michael went to Ferrari, he won 3 races in a **** car in the first year. and more importantly, he was instrumental in developing the team and the cars that you admire since 2002. he was never given anything. he earned it. that is what makes him a cut above the ordinary.

pump a monkey up with smack, put him in a F1 car and he'd probably drive the wheels of the car. he'd be aggressive albeit make a couple of mistakes, but hey at least it'll be as good as JPM

being a chapion takes a lot more than just aggressive driving. knowing the difference is what seperates the men from the boys.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:23 (Ref:917606)   #35
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pump a monkey up with smack, put him in a F1 car and he'd probably drive the wheels of the car.
Mate, its urban legend.
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And I well keep dreaming.
n wipe that drippin saliva while ur at it
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 09:40 (Ref:917623)   #37
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No. According to my mom, I had stop wipe 'that drippin saliva' since one years old. Are you still have that habit.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 10:12 (Ref:917650)   #38
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Despite the poor getaway, down to most probably a technical fault on his Jag, Webber proved to me over the weekend that he can fight and really make some moves - he was very aggressive and made some great overtaking moves that clearly rocked Ralf 'n' co - hence Ralf's little nudge of his back tyre (Michael Andretti style!). That was a clear sign that Webber had arrived and had dealt a few psychological blows to the guys at the sharp end.

He's turned Jag around from a laughing stock into a respectable outfit. Jag know how good they've got it, I firmly believe that only Schuey could have dragged the R5 to 2nd on the Malaysian grid.

Michael knows it too, this guy is good, very good.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 10:36 (Ref:917667)   #39
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Only two of the current era in top cars- KR and JPM.

Others if they get to a top 3 team are Alonso, Webber and Fisi.

No one can even have the chance of beating MS in a straight fight, unaffected by weather, incidents/weird stuff unless they are in a top 3 team. That's the reality of F1 and why all the drivers strive for a place in those top six seats.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 10:47 (Ref:917675)   #40
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Considering the whole profile of a dribver, not only lap times, nobody can beat MS.
Not only is he the best in getting the best from a car, but also he's the best about:
1) sharing the merit of each win with the whole team
2) avoiding silly polemics when things don't go well
3) being positive about problems that arise
4) always expressing maximum faith in collaborators

Apart from track performances, he's better than any other by miles.
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Old 24 Mar 2004, 11:20 (Ref:917706)   #41
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Webber could do it with Williams but unless Schumacher is injured or the like no one will catch him this year. Of course he wont win all races but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he wins more then everyone else combined.
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