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Old 28 Oct 2014, 04:24 (Ref:3469275)   #101
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Your underlying assumption here is that sponsors pay. They dont always.

Mr Stoddart went through some VERY tough times with Minardi when a number of backers were either slow to pay, or didnt bother at all...

An audit is as good as gold for the very day that the audit is done, but should not be seen as a panacea guaranteeing future performance...
An auditor isn't a cast iron gaurantee and I didn't intend him to be one. But an auditor is sufficient to establish a baseline and thus weed out the complete jokers. And if not an auditor in specific terms than an inspectatorate regime of some kind to assess the basic seriousness of a given aspirant.
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Old 28 Oct 2014, 05:55 (Ref:3469278)   #102
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Yes but have 5 teams ever folded at the end of one season?
Probably not since the 50s/60s, and that would have just been single car privateer teams.
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Old 28 Oct 2014, 07:46 (Ref:3469302)   #103
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An auditor isn't a cast iron gaurantee and I didn't intend him to be one. But an auditor is sufficient to establish a baseline and thus weed out the complete jokers. And if not an auditor in specific terms than an inspectatorate regime of some kind to assess the basic seriousness of a given aspirant.
it is interesting though, when you read of the stories of Mr Jordan's financial exploits in the early days of his team... they became a solid name in the sport.. yet their beginnings were wobbly for more than a little while..
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Old 28 Oct 2014, 09:46 (Ref:3469326)   #104
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Speaking of Mr Jordan I will be interested to hear what he has to say about the current state of F1 and could he be a successor to Bernie if you wanted an F1 insider.
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Old 28 Oct 2014, 09:49 (Ref:3469327)   #105
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Speaking of Mr Jordan I will be interested to hear what he has to say about the current state of F1 and could he be a successor to Bernie if you wanted an F1 insider.


oh wait, you're being serious aren't you?
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oh wait, you're being serious aren't you?
As serious as some of the suggestions I have seen mentioned.
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Old 28 Oct 2014, 10:05 (Ref:3469336)   #108
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Old 29 Oct 2014, 21:00 (Ref:3469818)   #109
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Gene Haas should just purchase the Myrussia Team.....
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Hmm interesting considering the relations between the former owners and new owners countries.
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Old 29 Oct 2014, 21:16 (Ref:3469824)   #111
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Well we have F1 hanging out with Mr Putin don't we....
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Old 29 Oct 2014, 21:23 (Ref:3469826)   #112
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Mind you it should be good news for at least some of the staff and will give Haas a lot of much needed facilities plus a few dollars from Bernie for the 2 points at Monaco. Not to mention a lot of current F1 know how.
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Old 29 Oct 2014, 21:30 (Ref:3469828)   #113
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Mind you it should be good news for at least some of the staff and will give Haas a lot of much needed facilities plus a few dollars from Bernie for the 2 points at Monaco. Not to mention a lot of current F1 know how.
Yes it would he would take over a pretty good little team by all accounts they use Ferrari power units already..

And the most important point is that it keeps all of the Myrussia staff working...
Plus....... The have an American driver don't they, Alexander Rossi
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Gene Haas should just purchase the Myrussia Team.....
Buying either of the existing teams would require him to race next year, and he is waiting (wisely I think) until 2016. Sure, he would get his hands on their gear, their IP but he would also have to pay off all of their debt (or a large chunk).

If Hass wants anything from the two teams, he is better off waiting for them to be liquidated and purchasing the gear then. He doesn't need the IP as the cars were crap anyway. He doesn't need the entry as he already has one. He probably doesn't need a lot of their equipment has he would have much of it from his other pursuits, and probably have deals with companies to supply him at a discount any way.
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Yes it would he would take over a pretty good little team by all accounts they use Ferrari power units already..

And the most important point is that it keeps all of the Myrussia staff working...
Plus....... The have an American driver don't they, Alexander Rossi
It would seem natural to most of us that has should simply buy Marussia. However that would be a team based in England and he has just built a workshop in North Carolina.

he wants to build in America, and has indicated he has a five year plan before he expects to really get into the challenging position. He has said he would consider it a mark of respect if he became the defacto Ferrari 'B' team, but that is not his goal.

If he bought Marussia he would also get the $60 million that will come to it through finishing in the 9th place in the championship (as the points currently stand).
what he would need to do is weigh up if taking it over would match with his goals and if the debt surrounding the team wouldn't offset any savings in costs.

His new marketing man did very well while employed at Budweiser and Bud Light might seem a perfect match in blue white and red....but are they interested in selling internationally outside the US?
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Gene Haas should just purchase the Myrussia Team.....
Mr Haas is too busy giving media interviews about how Marussia and Caterham 'made mistakes' in their F1 campaigns Here

You might have thought Mr Haas might be a little bit humble, given that his F1 team is still on a piece of paper, and hasnt turned a wheel in anger.

Certainly he doesnt acknowledge that the garagiste teams are forced to make their decisions on the basis of what is in front of them, they slither their way from decision to decision, from engine partners, from driver choice and the like, just to keep the lights on in some cases.

Much easier if you just keep writing cheques most likely, but that gets old pretty quick...
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Mr Haas is too busy giving media interviews about how Marussia and Caterham 'made mistakes' in their F1 campaigns Here

You might have thought Mr Haas might be a little bit humble, given that his F1 team is still on a piece of paper, and hasnt turned a wheel in anger.
I did winch when I read that, lets face it, humble is good when you have done bugger all in F1 that means anything...

I bet Graeme Lowdon could have a good conversation with him about that how flipping tough it is at the back of the grid...
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