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Old 14 Jul 2017, 20:35 (Ref:3751281)   #526
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Eurosport won't be showing this weekend's second race live. Repeats of cycling and tennis are more important.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 22:06 (Ref:3751300)   #527
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Both races are live on ES2 in Belgium/Netherlands.
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 18:35 (Ref:3751953)   #528
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 19:37 (Ref:3751970)   #529
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 16:39 (Ref:3752189)   #530
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Recap of the weekend:

Hurr, durr, I'm Tom Gaymor.

lol, Chilton.

Wow, Michigami! Doubled his points tally to a whopping two! (And he only did that through a bit of attrition.)
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 22:30 (Ref:3752278)   #531
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found a onboard video of the new track in china that will host the next round in 3 months, video is from may, i wonder if the track will be finished until then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbZ11EN-XZ0

looks like a nice track though.
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 13:59 (Ref:3752409)   #532
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found a onboard video of the new track in china that will host the next round in 3 months, video is from may, i wonder if the track will be finished until then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbZ11EN-XZ0

looks like a nice track though.
Was just watching this the other day. If completed, I agree it looks like a decent circuit.

As an aside, look up the one the TCR Int series are racing at too. That's a bit odd.

Nice to see plenty of new tracks in China.
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 14:26 (Ref:3752414)   #533
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 19:34 (Ref:3752556)   #534
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What stupid penaltys are assigned to the WTCC this year. At first, Huff was hardly deserved, recently to someone else, it seems Bennani, and now in general for nothing 5 seconds for Chilton. There was no contact between him and Erlacher at all, there were not even any marks on the Lada ... It's so stupid.
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 23:22 (Ref:3752634)   #535
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Anyone else struggling to stay interested in WTCC this year? Really lacklustre so far.

I was skeptical about TCR at first but TCR has had some brilliant racing this year, whereas WTCC seems to a snoozefest

So much so they felt the need to create artificial overtakes with than silly joke lap idea in Portugal.

The DTM has been dull too except the first race of Hockenheim and the second race at Norisring
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 10:52 (Ref:3752754)   #536
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Was just watching this the other day. If completed, I agree it looks like a decent circuit.

As an aside, look up the one the TCR Int series are racing at too. That's a bit odd.

Nice to see plenty of new tracks in China.
The pit lane exits under the start straight onto the outside of T2/inside of T3. In races with pit stops there could easily be crashes there. Better off exiting on outside of T1 like a normal circuit.
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 22:23 (Ref:3752908)   #537
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Old 20 Jul 2017, 12:15 (Ref:3753072)   #538
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Anyone else struggling to stay interested in WTCC this year? Really lacklustre so far.
It's building nicely to some politics and argy bargy between two manufacturer teams for the last couple of rounds, provided that both Honda and Polestar have drivers in contention until the last race.
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Old 20 Jul 2017, 20:34 (Ref:3753178)   #539
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Anyone else struggling to stay interested in WTCC this year? Really lacklustre so far.
Not just this year, ever since they introduced TC1 I felt this way.
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 15:38 (Ref:3753361)   #540
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Standings after Argentina:

1. POR Tiago Monteiro (Honda), 200
2. SWE Thed Björk (Volvo), 188
3. HUN Norbert Michelisz (Honda), 171
4. MOR Mehdi Bennani (SLR Citroën), 164
5. NED Nick Catsburg (Volvo), 159
6. GBR Tom Chilton (SLR Citroën), 147
7. GBR Robert Huff (Münnich Citroën), 135
8. ARG Esteban Guerrieri (Campos Chevrolet), 113
9. ARG Néstor Girolami (Volvo), 69
10. FRA Yann Ehrlache (RC Lada), 45
11. NED Tom Coronel (ROAL Chevrolet), 34
12. FRA John Filippi (SLR Citroën), 15

With just 16 drivers, the WTCC must change rules for 2019.

I see two options: go cheap (TCR), or go big (like DTM-WTCC merger or something).
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 16:11 (Ref:3753371)   #541
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With just 16 drivers, the WTCC must change rules for 2019.

I see two options: go cheap (TCR), or go big (like DTM-WTCC merger or something).
We have no news for the 2018 season, this is a little bit worrying...

It's difficult to think that WTCC with Ribeiro will choose the TCR concept and if they do, what should happen to the TCR International?
Maybe Eurosport should focus on the ETCC with TCR cars and try to elevate it to championship status again
They're doing well this year with the European Rally championship with young drivers, they could do something similar with the ETCC. But this is just my opinion
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 18:42 (Ref:3753389)   #542
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In some good news for WTCC Macau confirmed https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...onfirmed-wtcc/

Not great for a championship (let alone world champ) when good news is a race being on
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 20:55 (Ref:3753422)   #543
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8 laps. There hasn't been a Guia Race that short since the first time S2000 cars raced at the event. And this is supposed to be a professional World Championship?
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 22:48 (Ref:3753438)   #544
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like anything would change if they raced one lap more.
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Old 21 Jul 2017, 23:13 (Ref:3753440)   #545
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No, probably not. But I'm fed up with seeing piddly little 20 minute races in touring cars.
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Since they introduced the new formula the racing has gone downhill, they are too aero dependent. I'd love for them to introduce TCR, then we'd see better racing and hopefully more interest from drivers and fans alike. Come on FIA, you know it makes sense
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The WTCC should have a 40 minute feature race, like Argentine championships.
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Old 22 Jul 2017, 18:13 (Ref:3753558)   #548
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The WTCC should have a 40 minute feature race, like Argentine championships.
Format is not the issue. The cars (aero dependence), the cars (or lack of) and the cars (not being able to rub'n'race) are the issues.

I think that the current format is the best it could be with reversed grid based on quali. They have had to find this though as the racing is poor since TC1.
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The main problem is lack of TC1 cars and costs for private teams.

Aero doesn't cause that much problem, there were quite a lot of very good races during the last 4 years, and action really depends on competition.

TC1 has made the cars faster but not that much attractive as DTM cars, but taken the costs very high - so actually with this set of rules puts WTCC is in the middle of nowhere - expensive cars but not so fast and attractive. Which has become worse due to Citroen and Lada withdrawal and no interest from other makes.

Although I still believe that with more competiton and more factory teams (with no such Citroen domination) this concept would work very well.

Plus, it seems that touring car racing is not attractive for manufacturers themselves (not speaking about customer programs) - there is Formula E, WEC.
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I also think they need more variety of cars, when you only have 3 or 4 it's not enough. That's why the BTCC has always been more exciting, the variety in that series.
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