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Old 1 May 2013, 04:51 (Ref:3241210)   #61
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I wouldn't mind the GT cars being faster so there is more time during the lapped car process. And 10 rounds in the WEC would be great. Maybe timed races aren't the way to go and distance is. Another thing that will help is Porsche coming back. Toyota stepping up was just in time and hopefully Nissan jumps in P1. Then 'lotus' with maybe a P1 car next year with a new Rebellion and HPD, the top class is looking up imo.
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Old 1 May 2013, 06:18 (Ref:3241231)   #62
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Let's be honest, 6 hour races aren't helping. It's hard to get viewers for races like Silverstone when essentially for 2 full hours (hours 3-5) nothing of any interest to the common viewer is happening at all. That's why I liked the old 480km (Id increase it to 500) distance used during the peak of popularity of the FIA WSCC, it was still endurance racing, but easy enough to look visually exciting and keep spectators at the circuit instead of headed to the gates or food stalls like we saw at Brazil last year. 6 Hours or 1000km should be for special races like Spa and Fuji.
I agree and I'd support this, probably unpopular opinion on this board (?). 6 hour is simply a nightmare for tv. I can't see any mainstream channel (=Eurosport) every showing full races with this distance unless there is really empty weekend in terms of other more popular sports.

Maybe I am watching the wrong series but 6 hours of a day often feels like a burden. It's too short to be an epic like Sebring/LM/Petit but too long to create constantly more close and exciting racing. ELMS is already experimenting with shorter races, I can actually see this happening since it kind of happened during the original Championship and back then tv was much less important.

Between 198x-1992 the distances changed from season to season - before 1988 the few sprint races were 360km, 1989-1990: all races 480km, 1991: 430 km and then in 1992 back to mixed format (500km and 1000km - the original [cancelled] schedule). Seems like the were looking for the perfect distance already back then.

Btw, where does ALMS' 2h 45 min comes from? Fits more nicely to a 3 hour tv slot?
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Old 1 May 2013, 06:42 (Ref:3241236)   #63
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I think a variety of race lengths is the best so for a 10 race series we would have a 24hr, 12hr, 10hr, say 3 6hr and 4 3hr races.
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Old 1 May 2013, 08:05 (Ref:3241256)   #64
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I think a variety of race lengths is the best so for a 10 race series we would have a 24hr, 12hr, 10hr, say 3 6hr and 4 3hr races.
I'd definitely be in favour of this and mixing it up a bit.
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Old 1 May 2013, 08:11 (Ref:3241258)   #65
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However the problems arises that the races the TV wants like LM, Spa, Silverstone will still be 6 hours or more, the shorter races might be the right length for TV but they will never have the drawing potential of the big races
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Old 1 May 2013, 08:48 (Ref:3241268)   #66
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Thats what I liked about the the big races 2011 and before. You had different circuit varieties and different race lengths. Each presented different challenges.

24 Hours of Le Mans
12 Hours of Sebring
10 Hours/1000miles Road Atlanta


Now it is kind of a bland 6 hours on mostly Tilke tracks.


I would be okay with some shorter sprint races thrown in if we could get 10 races.

2 Hours 30 min of Mosport
2 Hours 30 min of Potrero de los Funes

Those tracks could piggy back on the schedule on the way to Austin and Brazil with a made for TV race length.
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Old 1 May 2013, 08:59 (Ref:3241270)   #67
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They could also do with one or two street races and these generate interest amongst people who would not normally go.
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Old 1 May 2013, 09:20 (Ref:3241277)   #68
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If we put 2:30 hours races then is not anymore the World ENDURANCE Championship, it would be another thing.
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If we put 2:30 hours races then is not anymore the World ENDURANCE Championship, it would be another thing.
That is the least of my concerns.

Besides, I always like World Sports Car Championship much better anyways.
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Perhaps we should give the WEC a little more time, if next year it does not start to gain momentum then it will have to change and keep changing until it finds a format that catches the imagination and succeeds.
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If we put 2:30 hours races then is not anymore the World ENDURANCE Championship, it would be another thing.
Guess what official name the old championship used between 1981-1985 until the manufacturers wanted it changed? And this was before the shortened race formats.
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The name is a side issue. I like the 6 hour races. Think Spa should be 8 hours or more. Fuji and Silverstone as well. China and Bore-rain should be 4 hour races imo. Brazil is good at 6 but running into the night was great when Peugeot won there. Add two more rounds in America and Europe at least! Nurburgring is rumored, and another U.S. race would do no harm. They also spoke of India which is the 2nd most populous country. They need Chandhok to do some PR and it would be great to see them at that circuit.
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Old 1 May 2013, 16:38 (Ref:3241388)   #73
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I agree that they should experiment a bit with the race format!
I also think they should try and tap into markets/areas where F1 don't go and avoid tilkedromes, they´re just not very suitable for sportscars.
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Old 1 May 2013, 18:09 (Ref:3241417)   #74
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Various lenght races seem to be a best receipt for a successful WEC.

- Two 24 hours (Le Mans and Daytona)
- Two 12 hours (Sebring, Spa)
- One 10 Hours (Petit Le Mans)
- Five 6 hours (Silverstone, Monza, Sao Paulo, Fuji, Shanghai)

Two hours races seem to be less endurance events, but idea would be good for a spin-off championship: World Interseries Championship!
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Various lenght races seem to be a best receipt for a successful WEC.

- Two 24 hours (Le Mans and Daytona)
- Two 12 hours (Sebring, Spa)
- One 10 Hours (Petit Le Mans)
- Five 6 hours (Silverstone, Monza, Sao Paulo, Fuji, Shanghai)

Two hours races seem to be less endurance events, but idea would be good for a spin-off championship: World Interseries Championship!
Those 3 American tracks you wont see the WEC on. Not with the current uscr situation. Road America I would love to see.
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