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Old 21 Mar 2016, 03:41 (Ref:3625393)   #46
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What I'd really like to do on this exercise would be to get a link to a definitive statement on things like this.

Got one for this?

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Not that I am allowed to name. But the teams and manufacturers have been expressly told that will be the way things are.
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 04:33 (Ref:3625398)   #47
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Not going to happen, as they aren't one of the four chassis manufacturers able to build an ACO or IMSA P2.
In regards to Coyote, they could just make bodykits for those four chassis manufacturers. Heck, they could supply crate Chevrolet engines for smaller teams.
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 04:43 (Ref:3625401)   #48
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And how many times does it have to be said that P-1 (technology and it's associated costs) are NOT on the table? It is a cost capped class on BOTH sides of the Pond.

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True, but since the Panoz GTR-1 isn't really any more complicated in design and technology than the new Ford GT or Ferrari 488 GTE, I could see Panoz claiming that and running GTLM. Mind you, what the manufacturers would think of that is another matter....
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 05:20 (Ref:3625405)   #49
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Depending on the source we have 4-8 manufacturers evaluating a DPi program. Will they all make it to the grid next year? Who knows.

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Cadillac-GM
Mazda
Acura-HPD

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I'm doubtful of the bottom four.

Nissan failed the LMP1 project, so who knows.
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 12:19 (Ref:3625512)   #50
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Not that I am allowed to name. But the teams and manufacturers have been expressly told that will be the way things are.

So far whenever the new IMSA says something is set in stone it only means until it falls out. One might charitably call them "flexible". The proof will be on the track next year.
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 12:47 (Ref:3625534)   #51
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A few words from IMSA's Director of Racing Platforms Mark Raffauf regarding the IMSA DPi v ACO LMP2 situation
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 12:58 (Ref:3625544)   #52
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Even though it has its flaws, good to see IMSA sticking up for themselves. I wholeheartedly agree with him regarding top-class vs. second-class.
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Even though it has its flaws, good to see IMSA sticking up for themselves. I wholeheartedly agree with him regarding top-class vs. second-class.
I honestly think IMSA has been doing a fantastic job so far in regards to selling this new product. I've felt satisfied on how they've been handling the process and have really given a lot of details regarding how everything will run next year. I hope they can keep it up. Remember when IMSA released the 2014 regs with just two months from the Rolex 24? They have come a very long way since then.
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They certainly have come a long way but their product should sell itself. Look at both GT classes, especially GTLM. I don't think we have quite the complications as Prototypes, but the on track product race in and out sells itself. I'm cautiously optimistic about the top class.
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 16:18 (Ref:3625619)   #55
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They certainly have come a long way but their product should sell itself. Look at both GT classes, especially GTLM. I don't think we have quite the complications as Prototypes, but the on track product race in and out sells itself. I'm cautiously optimistic about the top class.
So you honestly think the P class at Sebring was a dull, uneventful, race? You think the grid as whole is not competitive or exciting to watch? I always find these comments somewhat baffling. As I found the race as a whole quite compelling other than the weather caused red flag, but even that was the correct thing to do.
I think that the new DPi will usher in another very bright period for sports car racing in N. America, as long as outside influences do not hamper it (economy, etc...).




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They certainly have come a long way but their product should sell itself. Look at both GT classes, especially GTLM. I don't think we have quite the complications as Prototypes, but the on track product race in and out sells itself. I'm cautiously optimistic about the top class.
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So you honestly think the P class at Sebring was a dull, uneventful, race? You think the grid as whole is not competitive or exciting to watch? I always find these comments somewhat baffling.
How did you get that out of his post? He didn't say racing was bad in protos at Sebring or otherwise.
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So you honestly think the P class at Sebring was a dull, uneventful, race? You think the grid as whole is not competitive or exciting to watch? I always find these comments somewhat baffling. As I found the race as a whole quite compelling other than the weather caused red flag, but even that was the correct thing to do.
I think that the new DPi will usher in another very bright period for sports car racing in N. America, as long as outside influences do not hamper it (economy, etc...).




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I didn't find the first TWO races dull or uneventful nor the grids uncompetitive, regarding protos. I didn't write that. You did, for some reason. There's no need to have to sell anything if the product is great, like the first overall races this year and GT from recent memory. Regs will be changing and they can get Proto right for the future, like GT has consistently been. I happen to have some faith that they can.
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Old 21 Mar 2016, 16:43 (Ref:3625634)   #58
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How did you get that out of his post? He didn't say racing was bad in protos at Sebring or otherwise.
'But their product should sell itself'.. ' I am cautiously optimistic about the top class' ... is that not saying that the P class falls short of that mark and he has hope that it is corrected in the future? If not my bad. But that is certainly how I read (interpreted) the post. That it is dim, as compared to GT.





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I fear that until the DPIs come out (hopefully) next season, I think that the rest of the season will be a Corvette DP fest. Not due to BOP, which is basically right for once, but because of those guys having all pro driver line ups.

You can't really control pro am vs all pro driver line ups sensibly though BOP.
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I didn't find the first TWO races dull or uneventful nor the grids uncompetitive, regarding protos. I didn't write that. You did, for some reason. There's no need to have to sell anything if the product is great, like the first overall races this year and GT from recent memory. Regs will be changing and they can get Proto right for the future, like GT has consistently been. I happen to have some faith that they can.
Mia culpa then.






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