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Old 25 Jan 2018, 16:51 (Ref:3795032)   #46
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don't give up-
brian france is a bumbling billionare the reigns will be given to someone who cares and will make it good.
the season will have lots of good talent as usual so many new faces, it could be good.
it will be good, for 2020 when the tv contracts expire maybe they will get better tracks or kill double dates at some.
and don't bring up dirt, because the ARCA cars on dirt are not fun it is pretty tame.
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 23:54 (Ref:3795159)   #47
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don't give up-
brian france is a bumbling billionare the reigns will be given to someone who cares and will make it good.
the season will have lots of good talent as usual so many new faces, it could be good.
it will be good, for 2020 when the tv contracts expire maybe they will get better tracks or kill double dates at some.
and don't bring up dirt, because the ARCA cars on dirt are not fun it is pretty tame.
Thank you. I don't know. Like I said, I started following stock car racing in 1958, at the age of 5. My dad took me to my first race in 1959. It happened to be the last Grand National Division race that was run at the old Lakewood Fairgrounds track. The next year, the Grand National races were moved to the then newly opened Atlanta International Raceway, in Hampton, GA. I saw the majority of NASCAR'S history happen right before my eyes. I only missed the first 10 years. I saw it go from a regional sport to the very top form of racing in the United States. Over that time, I have seen literally generations of drivers come into the sport, run their careers and then retire. I've seen the cars evolve (I almost say, de-evolve) from "stock" cars to stock appearing cars, to cars that have nothing in common with stock cars, back to cars that look some what like stock appearing cars. There have been too many changes and many of them have not been for the good.

I pray that you are right, that someone will replace Brian France, someone that will do more to help the sport, instead of to kill it and I hope it happens before his bumbling does too much damage to make it completely unwatchable. I'll agree with you that once again, there is allot of new talent, new faces coming up from the ranks and it will be interesting to see how they do, now that they have made it to the top. We'll see what happens with the 2020 TV contract, hopefully, France has not damaged the sport to a point that will make it difficult for them to get a new contract. His bumbling has largely KILLED the TV ratings! They need to be very careful about how they do the schedule. I agree, that the tracks with two dates, need to lose their second date, with the exception of Daytona. The 4th of July weekend race needs to be kept. But dropping traditional tracks/races does not need to be done, that will do more harm than good. The schedule needs to remain somewhat consistent. Changing race dates, that have been on the same dates for years is not good. Witness what happened when the Southern 500 was moved from it's original/traditional date. The event lost it's prestige and it nearly killed the track. Moving this traditional race, back to it's original and rightful place on the schedule is the only thing that saved that track. That does not need to happen again, with any of the dates. New tracks, I can see them adding a race at Iowa Speedway, but aside from that track, I don't see any other tracks suitable. Rockingham, North Wilkesboro, the superspeedway they built outside of Nashville are all gone. It would be a good move if someone would put the 3/4 mile track, in Memphis, TN back into operation. That was always a good race for the Busch (now Xfinity) Series and I believe Cup would have done and could still do well there. If I had my way, they would add a couple of dirt track races to the schedule. Eldora for one. Tony Steward has done an outstanding job with that track. I'd like to see a 1 mile dirt track, Springfield, Knoxville, or DuQuinn would work. I have no problem with the ARCA dirt races. NASCAR's roots are on the dirt tracks. True, the ARCA races may be "tame" compared to the purpose built dirt late models or sprint and midget cars, but that was the same case, back in the day when the old Grand National Division raced on dirt as well. They still put on a good show, as does ARCA, considering again, that these are not purpose built dirt track cars. I always liked the ARCA races and the old and now sadly closed down USAC stock car division. We'll just have to see what happens this year. The unfortunately thing is that the BUMBLING IDIOT, France has run away most of the old line, diehard, life long, grass root stock car racing fans, like myself. He ran them away and most of them will not ever come back. They have moved on to other interests, away from racing. When you drive away your CORE fans, your fan base, that is a SERIOUS problem that may not can be overcome! Like I say, we'll just have to see what happens this season.
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Old 29 Jan 2018, 19:51 (Ref:3796700)   #48
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I've tried watching some of the grass roots series, but that takes some effort/money that I've not been able to muster up.

I won't watch unless it's the track I'm watching or if Chase is in contention late. I don't want to miss catching his first win. He's been so close yet so far away. The number 9 will help!
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Old 29 Jan 2018, 21:24 (Ref:3796713)   #49
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I've tried watching some of the grass roots series, but that takes some effort/money that I've not been able to muster up.

I won't watch unless it's the track I'm watching or if Chase is in contention late. I don't want to miss catching his first win. He's been so close yet so far away. The number 9 will help!
I have to agree. Chase should have won by now, really he should have 3 to 5 wins under his belt by now. Kid's been snake-bite, some, and an A**HOLE put him in the wall, at least once last year, that robbed him! Glad he retaliated and paid said A**hole back, by putting him into the wall at a later race! HE should get his first win this season and I have a feeling that when he does, it's going to be like a dam breaking, wins are going to start coming like a flood!
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Old 9 Feb 2018, 18:21 (Ref:3800039)   #50
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Daytona only has 40 cars entered?? With all the hoopla usually surrounding previous winners qualifying the car just for Daytona to get points to start the season under a full grid just sounds insane. But then costs sound insane too so guess it makes sense that way. But still under 43 for Daytona sounds weird.
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Old 9 Feb 2018, 18:35 (Ref:3800044)   #51
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Daytona only has 40 cars entered?? With all the hoopla usually surrounding previous winners qualifying the car just for Daytona to get points to start the season under a full grid just sounds insane. But then costs sound insane too so guess it makes sense that way. But still under 43 for Daytona sounds weird.
I won't look it up because I don't really care and prefer to just speculate wildly but pretty sure the count has been under 43 for the entirety of last season.
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Old 10 Feb 2018, 16:31 (Ref:3800327)   #52
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Car count is down for four reasons basically. 1. The slow recovery of the economy, after 8 years of economic ruin! It is going to take awhile to get it back up to where it use to be, if that is possible at all. 2. Mega teams, that own and/or control the majority of the cars in the series. The independent driver/owner is no more and the with today's prices few outside of them can afford to compete. Bill France was right, back in the 50s, when he banned multi-car teams, after the old Mercury Outboard team so thoroughly dominated for a season or two. The two car max per team, worked for years. Same old story though, "if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it"! It wasn't broke, but Hendricks, Roush and others slowly snuck more and more teams into ownership and the rules against it WERE NOT enforced! Now, it would be all but impossible to break up the big multi-car teams. 4. The charter system! That has effectively locked out new teams for coming into the series. Couple that with the driving away of the base, hardcore, long time, grass root fans, due to the IDIOTIC, lack of leadership of brian france and his desire to turn automobile racing into some kind of a rolling "stick and ball" sport, with play-offs, overtime, and other such non-racing NONSENSE and you can see why the sport is dying! NASCAR had the "Goose that laid the Golden Egg, but brian france KILLED it!
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Old 11 Feb 2018, 19:39 (Ref:3800551)   #53
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I won't look it up because I don't really care and prefer to just speculate wildly but pretty sure the count has been under 43 for the entirety of last season.
They downsized the field down to 40 cars when they went to the charter system.
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Old 26 Apr 2018, 07:58 (Ref:3817459)   #54
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With the news that Ford is dropping a slew of car models in favour of trucks/SUV's would anybody hazard a guess at what the implications for NASCAR might be?
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With the news that Ford is dropping a slew of car models in favour of trucks/SUV's would anybody hazard a guess at what the implications for NASCAR might be?
Probably not a whole lot. They've already announced that they will be racing the Mustang next year. The Mustang in one of two cars that they say that they will not drop. If anything, I could see them producing it as their only car, in the future. I'd say that NASCAR is safe, regarding this move.
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Old 26 Apr 2018, 21:29 (Ref:3817565)   #56
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The Mustang in
Cup was for exactly this reason... that Ford plan was cooked up some time ago. Be kind of amusing if they'd tried to make a NASCAR of the Focus Active (the only other car that will be in the Ford range). It's a high riding Focus with hideous black plastic cladding to look tough.

Makes sense, pick ups and SUVs are where the US customer is spending their cash.

In Blighty SUVs are getting everywhere though we still love our compacts and sub compacts. Big sedans like the Fusion (badged Mondeo in Europe) are not cars anybody wants nowadays.
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Cup was for exactly this reason... that Ford plan was cooked up some time ago. Be kind of amusing if they'd tried to make a NASCAR of the Focus Active (the only other car that will be in the Ford range). It's a high riding Focus with hideous black plastic cladding to look tough.

Makes sense, pick ups and SUVs are where the US customer is spending their cash.

In Blighty SUVs are getting everywhere though we still love our compacts and sub compacts. Big sedans like the Fusion (badged Mondeo in Europe) are not cars anybody wants nowadays.
Pick-up Trucks and (unfortunately) suvs have outsold all other vehicles for the last 10 to 15 years here in the U.S.. Pick-ups are EXTREMELY useful, suvs are not. suvs are basically "soccer mom" vehicles, like the station wagon use to be. They clog up the roads and create more of a hassle than anything else, IMO. From what I am hearing, the reason that Ford and the rest are dropping sedans and going to these things is because of the RIDICOUS "café" standards! Those are NOTHING, but enviorWACKO rules, designed to KILL the American auto industry! TOTAL CRAP! Smaller, lighter, less well constructed vehicles, made of cheaper materials that are required to get ABSURD mpg standards! The results, these are DEATH TRAPS on the U.S. highways! The Fusion would not catch on as a racing vehicle, for stock car racing! It is not and cannot be converted into a stock car. BTW, WHAT is a NASCAR? I have not ever seen one of those? I know that NASCAR is a sanctioning body for automobile racing. I see the term, "a NASCAR" from time to time, used by individuals that are anti-NASCAR, but I have yet to ever see or to understand what "a NASCAR" is?
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Sorry dude, offense most definitely not intended. This may seem a little ignorant but a NASCAR to me, in simple terms:

Seriously heavy duty steel cage with some suspension bolted on

A "proper" engine... anything 6 cylinders and above ticks that box for me, so a US V8 lump is right on!

Some sheet metal wrapped around trying to vaguely resemble a roadcar that the racecar supposedly is. If you squint a lot!

That's all I've ever known. First time I saw a NASCAR race was early 90's - 93 IIRC - when Nigel Mansell jumped F1 to CART. Being a Mansell fan I wanted to see CART and got introduced to NASCAR at that time as it was accessible on the TV package I had (as was the Aussie V8 Supercars). Found NASCAR more exciting and enjoyable due to the very close and competitive nature and have stuck with it since. Don't watch any single seat racing now.
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Pick-up Trucks and (unfortunately) suvs have outsold all other vehicles for the last 10 to 15 years here in the U.S.. Pick-ups are EXTREMELY useful, suvs are not. suvs are basically "soccer mom" vehicles, like the station wagon use to be. They clog up the roads and create more of a hassle than anything else, IMO. From what I am hearing, the reason that Ford and the rest are dropping sedans and going to these things is because of the RIDICOUS "café" standards! Those are NOTHING, but enviorWACKO rules, designed to KILL the American auto industry! TOTAL CRAP! Smaller, lighter, less well constructed vehicles, made of cheaper materials that are required to get ABSURD mpg standards! The results, these are DEATH TRAPS on the U.S. highways! The Fusion would not catch on as a racing vehicle, for stock car racing! It is not and cannot be converted into a stock car. BTW, WHAT is a NASCAR? I have not ever seen one of those? I know that NASCAR is a sanctioning body for automobile racing. I see the term, "a NASCAR" from time to time, used by individuals that are anti-NASCAR, but I have yet to ever see or to understand what "a NASCAR" is?
We get it, you think NASCAR is the greatest thing ever but guess what your knowledge of cars, safety, construction and pretty much everything else related to cars is utter tripe and WRONG. Ford can't sell the other cars here, sorry the SUVs you want to hate are cars they're the same chassis, because no one wanted them. They are not stopping production, just sales in the US. But hey why let that stop you from thinking they're lightened, so not even close, weaker, again utter bs, and death traps, sorry way way way off. No cars have been built before that are safer than are currently built. And if they really worried about CAFE numbers then they would drop the inefficient SUVs in favor of the better fuel economy cars.

And well the SUVs are marketed at the suburban people so why wouldn't they be soccer mom cars? Is this just you feel slighted because you're out of touch and have no clue about the real world? Your rantings are getting old and only serve to make those of us who enjoy stock cars, mostly road courses but some ovals work, to decide if it's being associated with you or hating stock cars well I'll move along to SUV soccer mom racing
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Old 5 May 2018, 21:51 (Ref:3820174)   #60
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Sorry dude, offense most definitely not intended. This may seem a little ignorant but a NASCAR to me, in simple terms:

Seriously heavy duty steel cage with some suspension bolted on

A "proper" engine... anything 6 cylinders and above ticks that box for me, so a US V8 lump is right on!

Some sheet metal wrapped around trying to vaguely resemble a roadcar that the racecar supposedly is. If you squint a lot!

That's all I've ever known. First time I saw a NASCAR race was early 90's - 93 IIRC - when Nigel Mansell jumped F1 to CART. Being a Mansell fan I wanted to see CART and got introduced to NASCAR at that time as it was accessible on the TV package I had (as was the Aussie V8 Supercars). Found NASCAR more exciting and enjoyable due to the very close and competitive nature and have stuck with it since. Don't watch any single seat racing now.
Don't worry about it Alfisti. You didn't know and your intentions were not meant to be offensive. It's offensive to me, because I have always heard it from formula, indy and sportscar fans, always used in a derogatory manner. It is offensive to many American stock car racing fans. We wonder why they can't simply just say NASCAR cars or stock cars. They would probably be offended and/or would say that we sound stupid if we referred to their series vehicles as an indy or a formula. That really doesn't sound very intelligent, if you think about it, about like someone says that a driver drives a NASCAR. No one drives a sanctioning body. As I said, don't worry about it. You didn't know. Have a good day.
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