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Old 6 Oct 2015, 11:33 (Ref:3579938)   #691
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That VDS statement is really string. Such a shame to see this team go too, have always been one of my favourites and always strong at Spa and Nurburgring.

I really thought they'd be the semi-works team for the new M6 next year; wonder who their Pro entrants will be now? Schubert have hardly set the world alight in recent years. RBM?
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Old 6 Oct 2015, 12:05 (Ref:3579944)   #692
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Wowzers. No punches were pulled in that statement. He implies that multiple people within the team are to blame though. We know Bas was kicked out (and now we know why), but who else within the team was complicit?

The last couple of sentences are arguably just as telling, where Van der Stratten mentions not being able to compete in a headline event without at least nominally signing up to the accompanying series. I noticed that when Chi did the "Fantasy Team Calendar" game that most people opted for prestigious one-offs as well. Perhaps Chiana should have tripled the entrance fees for those races to make it not accurate.

And there is the small matter of a race in France that everyone wants to attend but for whom only ~30 places are guaranteed, if you have the cash. For all the manufacturer flirting the ACO engages in (which is not necessarily wrong BTW), I hope the privateers don't get too short a stick.

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Old 6 Oct 2015, 13:50 (Ref:3579962)   #693
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Well that's obviously a jab at the SRO's recent decision and I agree with him 100%. The current "you must enter one other" rule is much better; I want to see oddball and one-off entries to make certain events 'special'.
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And I agree with you but Ratel agrees with the bulging back pockets of Fillon. I suppose an argument of continuity could be made in SRO's favour but the big endurance races have a strong tradition of one-offs.

Looks like Schubert are in line for a lot more manufacturer backing if they want to expand.
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I cant believe this. Im quite stunned they pulled the pin but i can see why.

A curse upon those people who have spoiled a damn good team. Not sure if Bas was involved in this hence him being fired which would explain somethings. It doesnt matter who was involved, they should be ashamed of themselves. Theres a hole in gt racing that wont be easy to fill .

Good on him for having a crack at the SRO, he put it pretty well in saying that there should be no reason why he cant enter his home race without doing the whole series.
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Maybe the so-called over spending was part of the reason why the team was so successful??
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To add a little bit to MVdS's departure from GT racing - they are going to be Honda's semi-works squad in the MotoGP series, including getting one of the four factory-spec bikes on offer (Repsol get two and LCR get one, but the Repsol bikes get the very newest updates first). They're also running more bikes in the junior classes next year.

Those things aren't cheap, and if Marc has been pushed on the issue of cars or bikes then any mishandling on either side would make it easy to pick the other.
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I really thought they'd be the semi-works team for the new M6 next year; wonder who their Pro entrants will be now? Schubert have hardly set the world alight in recent years. RBM?
Here's a wild guess: What about Walkenhorst? They have already confirmed the purchase of two M6 GT3's, a big sponsor for next year, are pretty successful this season and have a strong relationship with BMW Motorsport in general. If I was BMW and I'd had to pick someone to function as my works team for the N24, I'd pick them to replace Marc VDS. But I don't know if Walkenhorst's infrastructure allows for the team to run international races.
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So Jean Todt defends the Le Mans / Baku clash (german).
Since when are support series events allowed to impede the main event??
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"Le Mans is protected as well as possible"

No it isn't you liar and you know it.

It's telling that the head of the FIA needs to make excuses for Uncle Bernard and for breaking up their own decisions
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It would be more accurate to say Le Mans is as protected as the FIA feels it should be, which is to say not very. Like a lot of the top-level sport, the money comes first and the tradition/heritage/etc. can take a back seat. The longer this F1 malaise drags on the more it resembles "The Emperor's New Clothes"*.

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" The Mental Image of a Naked Uncle Bernie " LOL !!! When did this change to a PORNO Site ??? It is time to lay down , I'm not feeling well
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Sorry JJay, a little too "strange and unusual" for my tastes (see my avatar for that reference--if you don't get it, feel free to ask )

On a more serious note, that does show that money talks, even when you have an FIA president who has been extremely supportive of motorsports aside from F1. And Bernie, as CEO and co-owner of FOM, does have plenty of bucks to shuffle around when he wants to.
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It's Lydia Deetz (Beetlejuice), right? Now you're moving well out of my area of expertise, although I did help out with a subbing group whose founder lived nextdoor to Tim Burton's grandmother and got to know him during a time of difficulty for her. He described Tim unfavourably and with no small measure of colourful language. I know Burton wasn't as hands-on with the cartoon as with the movie, but IIRC he still produced some of the episodes.

Getting back to motorsport, everybody has their own priorities and nobody is going to argue against each entity looking out for itself. But what the FIA should do is look at the wider picture. Unless Jean wants me to believe that it's so important (and viable) to give the Baku GP every chance [not] succeeding that the next best series/race has to be underfoot then I can only see this being a result of stuffed brown envelopes.
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