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Old 22 Sep 2014, 03:05 (Ref:3456473)   #151
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On the Lotus gearbox, I think that it's like the Ferrari 458 and the HPD cars in that the Lotus has it's own casing, but uses Hewland built internals.

Very similar to Audi and Toyota who design their own gearbox casings but have XTrac build the internals.
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Old 22 Sep 2014, 04:16 (Ref:3456493)   #152
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Lotus had a good top speed, 294.3kmh, tied with the #14 porsche for 2nd highest of the weekend!
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Old 22 Sep 2014, 04:17 (Ref:3456494)   #153
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That didn't stop the SMP P2 from outbraking it at the end of the back straight though.
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Old 22 Sep 2014, 13:25 (Ref:3456606)   #154
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Lotus had a good top speed, 294.3kmh, tied with the #14 porsche for 2nd highest of the weekend!
That is actually quite impressive. Does this prove the power of the AER, or the aero of the Lotus?

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That didn't stop the SMP P2 from outbraking it at the end of the back straight though.
That is not very impressive! I guess they have some development to do on braking and downforce?
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Old 22 Sep 2014, 13:40 (Ref:3456610)   #155
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I think that both r-one and lotus lack of aero development, with a decent power is easy to achieve a great top speed without a huge amount of downforce. I didn't watch the whole race, has been revealed the revlimit of the lotus with that HUD telemetry that sometimes appears during the race?
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Old 22 Sep 2014, 15:47 (Ref:3456637)   #156
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That is not very impressive! I guess they have some development to do on braking and downforce?
The car was really twitchy through the corner complexes at the end of the lap and they were lifting early and often. The AER engine pops and crackles a lot when they lift, so it's easy to notice.
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Old 23 Sep 2014, 02:03 (Ref:3456773)   #157
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Early in the race (at least) they double stinted tires. They were able to dip into the 1:59's as well. They can be happy with those things.
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Old 23 Sep 2014, 02:28 (Ref:3456778)   #158
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Same as the lmp2 car, the lmp2 car was always quick in a straight line but didnt have much downforce.

In the night stints with Rossiter in the car the car was matching the pace of the #13 Rebellion on most laps, the fact they've been able to run the full race without problems is a huge positive too.
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Old 23 Sep 2014, 03:00 (Ref:3456783)   #159
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Rossiter says the car has really good power. Once they get another race under them, theyll figure out the car better. Even Rebellion is learning their car still. My bet is the aco will give the private cars another break. I think they could do with a bigger fuel tank. I count 25 lap stints for this car.
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I would love to see them give them much more of a weight break - I used the love the days of the nimble LMP675's racing the heavier LMP900's - thismeans things play out differently on different circuits
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Old 23 Sep 2014, 09:58 (Ref:3456831)   #161
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Is the Lotus P1 a completely new car?

Having just returned from Austin where I was able to have a reasonable look over the "new" Lotus P1 and take some pics......seems to me that perhaps this is not really a clean sheet of paper new car after all?

As it bears so many similarities on the tub and suspension, layout etc, that last years P2 Lotus/Adess had?

If it is only an update adaption to P1, wondering why Kolles said it was a clean sheet of paper design? Rather than simply say it is the P2 base car, which I assume Kolles owns the IPR of, so there shouldn't be any legal issues about doing that?

But whatever it is, the AER engine seems to deliver the goods....
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Having just returned from Austin where I was able to have a reasonable look over the "new" Lotus P1 and take some pics......seems to me that perhaps this is not really a clean sheet of paper new car after all?

As it bears so many similarities on the tub and suspension, layout etc, that last years P2 Lotus/Adess had?

If it is only an update adaption to P1, wondering why Kolles said it was a clean sheet of paper design? Rather than simply say it is the P2 base car, which I assume Kolles owns the IPR of, so there shouldn't be any legal issues about doing that?

But whatever it is, the AER engine seems to deliver the goods....
Well spotted. If you go back a page on the thread Sam Collins confirms it's an updated T128.

What I want to know is why did it fail a crash test pre-Spa if that was the case?
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New rear crash structure that's on all new LMP1s? Also, the car does seem to have a new nose box on it.
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Old 23 Sep 2014, 12:02 (Ref:3456863)   #164
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I think thats the case - says in the article I wrote in the mag about it but I don't have it to hand and can't remember!

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Its clearly the T128 / Adess 02 with some mods, new front crash structure for sure.

More here - http://www.racecar-engineering.com/cars/lotus-t128/
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Of course wasn't the T128 tub/front suspension designed to be upgradeable to LMP1 spec to start off with?

If they want to run a second car/have a spare tub/customer car they will need to make a new tub though as the second Lotus LMP2 car from last season is now a Praga LMP2 car.
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