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20 Jun 2007, 05:37 (Ref:1942248)
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New Tyre Supplier?
Has anyone heard anything about the tyre war between Goodyear/Dunlop, Yokohama and Pirelli? The last thing I heard was that the Itlian tyre maker (Pirelli) was going to be the new supplier. GTR, anything from your part of the Powder Room?
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20 Jun 2007, 06:07 (Ref:1942256)
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Pirelli is certainly getting the bulk of the positive news stories in the media but I dont know if thats a function of technical/financial superiority or a better marketing job....
That Pirelli in itself is not a major player in Australia may be seen as significant, regarding the amount of marketing funds available to support the technical supply arrangement, as required by the agreement. Its interesting that in none of the news discussions has anyone asked a team owner whether they would like or dislike a change in tyre provider... from a technical aspect and all the tricky bits that need to change when a tyre's heat cycling/durability/performance etc is in a totally new window.... |
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20 Jun 2007, 07:24 (Ref:1942285)
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 He went on record at EC saying that the current tire is good but a change in supplier might mix the field up - for a few races anyway. |
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20 Jun 2007, 10:10 (Ref:1942380)
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But one comment out of what 16 or 17 franchise licence slot owners.. isnt conclusive evidence of support |
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20 Jun 2007, 11:05 (Ref:1942424)
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i think Neil mentioned it somewhere on 7 or Panel Beaters that Pirreli are looming as favourites, they arn't a mager player in Aus and they just left WRC so maybe looking for a replacement on the Motorsport supplying side.
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20 Jun 2007, 12:04 (Ref:1942458)
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20 Jun 2007, 13:59 (Ref:1942542)
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Pirelli may not be up there with Bridgestone, Dunlop and Goodyear, but they do have a performance niche market.
The top three, as Holden and Toyota do in the car meket, receive alot of fleet sales. I know alot of performance car owners that prefer Pirelli and GT Radials over the top three, with upper end 'Stones being the other option (G-Grid's normally or Potenza G3's). Just personal observations - in saying that, living in a coastal area, softer, wet-weather tyres seem to be the go around here. |
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20 Jun 2007, 15:06 (Ref:1942588)
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20 Jun 2007, 23:25 (Ref:1942996)
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I think it would be kind of cool to have Pirelli supply the tyres. Don't ask me why, they don't make tyres to suit my car!
I don't know why they'd consult team owners about a new tyre - they didn't for the control brakes. TEGA are meant to represent team owners anyway. |
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21 Jun 2007, 01:54 (Ref:1943026)
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A mate of mine made the switch from Dunlop to Pirelli on his Falcon recently and it has made a world of difference. Not only has the grip factor increased, but has found that the tyre isn't as spongy on corners like the Dunlop was.
A damn site better construction too is the Pirelli, and if that is across the range including there race tyres, it may well mix the pack up a little more and throw a few drivers off there usual style. |
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21 Jun 2007, 02:48 (Ref:1943033)
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So when is the date for the annoucement for the winning bid.
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21 Jun 2007, 02:58 (Ref:1943034)
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Hopefully they might go the F1 route and have 3 or 4 different compounds to cover the various circuits instead of having one tire for all the circuits as they do now. And allow the teams to pick the compound thats suits them.
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21 Jun 2007, 03:01 (Ref:1943036)
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I have also heard Pirelli might have supply issue as they do not have a tyre suitable for super taxis but if they win the contract they will one constuct one but twelve month delay. |
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21 Jun 2007, 05:11 (Ref:1943063)
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when it comes to racing probably Bridgestone is top Michelin 2nd and Perreli 3rd from what you hear with suplying.
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21 Jun 2007, 10:43 (Ref:1943250)
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Yokohama's were a pretty good tyre when they were running around on the PJ SIERRA'S and I think they had a run on the B&H Commodore's.
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21 Jun 2007, 11:34 (Ref:1943292)
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Every car that I have bought with Bridgestones on it.... when they wear/wore they were almost invariably flung for something much much better. The one I bought with Continentals went likewise... The one I bought new with Yokohamas aboard kept the Yokohamas....
But you read the marketing blurb and a Bob Jane Aussie All Rounder should be good enough for us ordinary folk 
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21 Jun 2007, 11:50 (Ref:1943304)
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THe tyre tender for V8SC is a very complex and involved thing.
Apparently all the tyre manufactures get in a line and when the powers that be call for volunteers the person who doesn't step backwards fast enough gets the gig I have heard 2 suppliers talking big and saying they premium price because of the hassle, maybe just talk, of course |
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21 Jun 2007, 22:58 (Ref:1943777)
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I was thinking about this, and is there any reason why they couldn't have multiple tyre manufacturers if there was a regulation enforcing that a tyre manufacturer must supply identical tyres to more than 2 teams, across both car brands? The teams would be able to "claim" other teams tyres from their tyre manufacturer as they can now. That would prevent one team from getting "specials" and still allow competition between tyre companies.
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22 Jun 2007, 01:26 (Ref:1943837)
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in racing terms out of Dunlop, Pirreli and yokahama (the latest i heard these were the contenders) looking at main forms of motorsport around the world Pirreli would be most recognised in current times as Yokies used to be big, correct me if i'm wrong. Last edited by Pro Racer; 22 Jun 2007 at 01:31. |
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22 Jun 2007, 01:55 (Ref:1943847)
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I think it was the Eastern Creek pre-race Panelbeaters show a caller rang asking if Pirelli were getting the nod and Neil said he could not say but they may be on the right track.
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22 Jun 2007, 02:09 (Ref:1943849)
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At least if Pirelli gets the gig some of you might learn how to spell "Pirelli".
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22 Jun 2007, 02:25 (Ref:1943855)
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And the public MIGHT have a SLIGHT chance of getting a copy of the Pirelli Calender
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22 Jun 2007, 03:29 (Ref:1943873)
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Pity Michelin did'nt put a tender in. This would have given teams access to BF Goodrich and their All terrain and Mud terrain tyres. Which would help the lesser talented drivers during their off track excursions.
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22 Jun 2007, 04:18 (Ref:1943888)
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(cough) Rick (cough).
Pirelli, Pirelli, Pirelli, spell check. |
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22 Jun 2007, 10:12 (Ref:1944080)
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Contact between vehicle and surface. Can all the experts predict the natue of each cicuit, wet and dry? Drivers say the rears were secondhand Fronts cop a flogging , Waffle Crompton will tell you. What is the actual compound to survive 30 laps of most asussie tracks? Let the bidding wars beging lets go back to running what you want. Sorry no calenders
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