Supercars 2021 Media Rights

[Sandgroper]

Originally Posted by mayhem

382,000 subscribers to Kayo according to Fox. The catch is, at what cost has it taken to achieve those numbers given that many customers reportedly cancelled their Foxtel subscriptions to take up Kayo.

Yeah but way to go for the buffering with poor internet services
And FOX has the record option with allows you to record and fast forward Soooo many boring races

[Casper]

The future does not look good for the Fox network and some are predicting its demise entirely and it looks entirely abysmal if they think I am going to give them any money. Any way it is viewed sports owners are going to be on a hiding to nothing when the current contracts are up for negotiation again if Fox is not around.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Casper

The future does not look good for the Fox network and some are predicting its demise entirely and it looks entirely abysmal if they think I am going to give them any money. Any way it is viewed sports owners are going to be on a hiding to nothing when the current contracts are up for negotiation again if Fox is not around.

I can't wait. I am sick to death of sports selling our direct streaming products to lock up their content at Foxtel, with their predatory policies and crap technology. Both Supercars and Cricket Australia sucked Murdoch's dick and canned money I would have given them directly, thank heavens for other options.

Hopefully with this change in landscape these bodies can realise the value of direct engagement and I will pay them all day long for what I want.

[Juarez Jed]

Foxtel dropping the Eurosport channel next month.
Even poorer value for motorsport fans with Foxtel as it was the home of WTCR, GT3, WEC and European Rally.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I can't wait. I am sick to death of sports selling our direct streaming products to lock up their content at Foxtel, with their predatory policies and crap technology. Both Supercars and Cricket Australia sucked Murdoch's dick and canned money I would have given them directly, thank heavens for other options.

Hopefully with this change in landscape these bodies can realise the value of direct engagement and I will pay them all day long for what I want.

Many want it for nothing,if the advertisers arent there, who pays or do we go back to track owner promoters, get rid of the franchise owners Supercars/Archer, ARG etc.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Many want it for nothing,if the advertisers arent there, who pays or do we go back to track owner promoters, get rid of the franchise owners Supercars/Archer, ARG etc.

I think people will pay a fair price. Cricket for example was 30 bucks a year, I used to pay it mainly for the BBL, which was on free to air. Now they split with Foxtel and of course all the best games are on Foxtel.

I no longer have a free to air antenna so being able to watch on a tablet or chrome cast is a must. No American sport is dumb enough to sell their digital rights to someone else, now that there is not Foxtel able to outbid and lock away content anti competitively, hopefully more sports will keep direct streaming and benefit from the social engagement it brings.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Many want it for nothing,if the advertisers arent there, who pays or do we go back to track owner promoters, get rid of the franchise owners Supercars/Archer, ARG etc.

The sooner motor racing is done with franchises and the likes of organisations like Supercars and ARG and others, the better

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by one five five

The sooner motor racing is done with franchises and the likes of organisations like Supercars and ARG and others, the better

Oh God you want to go back to the dark ages?

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I can't wait. I am sick to death of sports selling our direct streaming products to lock up their content at Foxtel, with their predatory policies and crap technology. Both Supercars and Cricket Australia sucked Murdoch's dick and canned money I would have given them directly, thank heavens for other options.

Hopefully with this change in landscape these bodies can realise the value of direct engagement and I will pay them all day long for what I want.

I agree Foxtel are on the way out but don’t think it is necessarily a great deal for the consumer.For example by the time I pay for the 4 streams I would get-F1,Moto GP,EPL and USPGA-I am already paying more than I would pay to Foxtel.Zero access to better than FTA coverage on any other sport and then there are things like my favourite sports event in the world the Le Mans 24 Hour where the race is not included in the WEC streaming package so no access.
If things go to all streaming either give up on watching a lot of stuff or be prepared to pay a lot more than you have under the Murdoch monopoly.

[cavvy]

Not sport but I'd guess it has application to sport.
The Trade Desk referred to deals with 'broadcasters and growing revenue in connected TV for the platform, which allows ad buyers to manage advertising campaigns across formats and devices.'

https://www.thetradedesk.com/press-r...-u-s-consumers

NEW YORK – January 6, 2020 – The majority of Americans (59 percent) are not willing to pay more than $20 a month for streaming TV services, according to a recent survey of more than 2,600 U.S. consumers by The Trade Desk.
Furthermore, 75 percent of consumers will not pay more than $30 a month.
As more TV content providers launch new streaming services in 2020, these results highlight the subscription fatigue threshold for TV streaming services, where on-demand movies, TV shows and live events can be accessed by connected devices such as smart TVs and mobile devices.

Despite the mobile nature of streaming apps, consumers have shown they still prefer to view content on the largest screen in their home – the television.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by mayhem

382,000 subscribers to Kayo according to Fox. The catch is, at what cost has it taken to achieve those numbers given that many customers reportedly cancelled their Foxtel subscriptions to take up Kayo.

Given Telstra have sold the physical Foxtel cable network to the NBN (and Foxtel are therefore moving a lot of people onto satellite where they can), maybe Foxtel are actually rather pleased about this reduction in overheads?

[Sandgroper]

Adding the sports package again this weekend for the upcoming motorsport and AFL seasons. Let see what deal I can negotiate

[Casper]

Foxtel taking the axe to sport

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-u...23-p53tyi.html

I can't imagine Supercars will escape some treatment as well when the time comes though it is only speculation until then as what will happen.

[mayhem]

Is Talem Bend the first round ever that isnt on any FTA at all?

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Is Talem Bend the first round ever that isnt on any FTA at all?

I think it will still have the 1 Hour highlights package.It will be the first enduro in the Supercar era that does not have live fta coverage.

[Casper]

And so it begins https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...05-p53y1n.html

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by Casper

And so it begins https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...05-p53y1n.html

Probably unrelated, but I find it curious that Supercars are producing the TV for the TCR coverage on Seven...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/07...nal-telecasts/

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Probably unrelated, but I find it curious that Supercars are producing the TV for the TCR coverage on Seven...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/07...nal-telecasts/

Precursor to Warburton bringing Supercars to 7 in next deal?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Probably unrelated, but I find it curious that Supercars are producing the TV for the TCR coverage on Seven...

https://www.speedcafe.com/2020/02/07...nal-telecasts/

"Probably"

They are the best motorsport production company in the country, and ARG has obviously decided to pick up their game after fairly brutal criticism of their previous coverage. Most certainly not cheap. I want to hear now from competitors when entry fees go up by a couple of grand or more per weekend. Been there done that.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Alan52

Precursor to Warburton bringing Supercars to 7 in next deal?

That’s my tip, no doubt with a Foxtel element in there too

Originally Posted by Mixer

"Probably"

They are the best motorsport production company in the country, and ARG has obviously decided to pick up their game after fairly brutal criticism of their previous coverage. Most certainly not cheap. I want to hear now from competitors when entry fees go up by a couple of grand or more per weekend. Been there done that.

ARG won’t foot the bill?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by one five five

ARG won’t foot the bill?

They might at the start, but really all the categories other than the real big ones are used to funding this. I've done it with speedway, sports sedans, some are always for it, some are always against it, but its never cheap.

[Mixer]

I had a thought about this. Maybe the season sponsor can pick up the tab and like the cricket you will get a "brought to you by..."

That would be a good solution.

[one five five]

Interesting to read on socials that Mr Noonan will not be a part of the Ch10 Supercars telecasts, nor the ARG Ch7 broadcasts. Judging by the post he would have liked to have continued

Any word on what Ch10’s commitments to its races will be this year? Cost cutting on some talent with a view to not re-upping in 2021?

Originally Posted by Mixer

They might at the start, but really all the categories other than the real big ones are used to funding this. I've done it with speedway, sports sedans, some are always for it, some are always against it, but its never cheap.

I just figured that ARG were throwing the money around last year for their entities, they’d want full grids for the new TV package in 2020 and slugging competitors with the “TV Tax” this year would be a backward step. In a few years though I have little doubt TV fees will be charged to the entrants

[Sandgroper]

Interesting that Mr Noonan has not been resigned.

Thoughts as to why? Outpriced the market or too many ex drivers moving in ?

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Sandgroper

Interesting that Mr Noonan has not been resigned.

Thoughts as to why? Outpriced the market or too many ex drivers moving in ?

There aren’t any ex-drivers on the TEN Supercars coverage, so that can’t be why. It reads like TEN are just going to use Matt White, Kate Peck and Sam Mackinnen who are all employed for multiple roles at the network, whereas Noonan was just brought in for Supercars events, so sounds like simple cost cutting.....and like they aren’t investing in the coverage going forward.

Him playing no part in the Supercars Media produced TCR coverage on Ch7 is more intriguing. He has a relationship with Supercars Media via the stats he provides for their Supercars broadcasts for Foxtel & Ten, and Noonan has a seemingly great relationship with 7 through various programming after the end of their V8Supercars coverage in 2014.