Best overtaking move in F1 history

[Matt]

Originally Posted by herowassenna

I'm getting an idea here maybe you don't like Alonso??

Don't like him at all, but it had nothing to do with the comments about the video and the video I posted.

[Yannick]

The best scenes from recent years: Coulthard vs Alonso vs Heidfeld, Malaysia 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ho4y6NDE8g&NR=1

The best thing is that they are three wide at some point and it goes on and on.
Spectacular moves don't always have to happen for getting P1.

[herowassenna]

Originally Posted by Yannick

The best scenes from recent years: Coulthard vs Alonso vs Heidfeld, Malaysia 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ho4y6NDE8g&NR=1

The best thing is that they are three wide at some point and it goes on and on.
Spectacular moves don't always have to happen for getting P1.

Good point. I remember one race last year where Hamilton and Alonso were fighting over 9th or something. Or one particular favourite of mine, MAnsell vs Alesi at Suzuka 94. Spectacular, but forgotten because hill and Schumi were dominating up front.
Whilst mentioning Alesi, what about Phoenix 1990 against Senna?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jye3m...eature=related

or Canada 93?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eut-9j3B_LQ

To give some idea of what the commentators are talking about, those sweepers are 180mph...

Or for sublime ridiculous talent, Senna around the outside of Wendlinger in the Craner curves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcIPI...eature=related

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

That dice with Arnoux and Villeneuve was a bit of a classic. Dijon wasn't such a bad track. It's nice to see someone who can remember F1 prior to the TGF/Ferrari era.

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Didn't you read all the pages in this thread ?

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Bononi

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Didn't you read all the pages in this thread ?

Yep.

[wnut]

Vettel under Webber's defensive line Malaysia 2010.

[Dutton]

Originally Posted by steve_r

Suzuka 97 - Eddie Irvine overtook both Michael Schumacher AND Mika Hakkinen around the outside of the same corner.

That has to be tongue in cheek! If not, then you are blatantly demented, . Anyway, well, I could never pick one move in particular. There are many which deserve to be recognisable as of the best. There is one I will mention not so much for the pass itself, but rather for the build-up to it. Unless I have invented a false memory, in the 1995 Nurburgring race Michael made a pass on Alesi (for the lead, IIRC). The reason I mention it is for the many laps prior to the pass that Michael spent running off-line to the corner into which he made the pass laps later. It was so premeditated: cleaning the line lap after lap, all in preparation/anticipation for making the move in the future. The pass itself at the time was not all much to mention at all, but the overall picture......

[wnut]

I had forgotten about that move, thanks for the reminder that was pure brilliance! I can't remember the exact race, but I certainly remember the odd line lap after lap to get the track clean. great racecraft.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by wnut

I had forgotten about that move, thanks for the reminder that was pure brilliance! I can't remember the exact race, but I certainly remember the odd line lap after lap to get the track clean. great racecraft.

I seem to remember that Michael had some influence on the design of that chicane.

As to whether or not it was "pure brilliance" or just an inevitabilty, I'm not so sure.

[steve_r]

I got called demented! Yay!

Here is Irvines move. OK, not the best ever, but certainly stands out from the crowd for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzPM1xHm2wg

[Kempi]

I seem to remember that Michael had some influence on the design of that chicane.

That was years later.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Kempi

That was years later.

Just to make sure that no one could do it back to him.

[chunterer]

The great moves from my time have already been nicely covered thanks to the likes of V and Knowlesy.



I might like to slot in JPM's move on Alonso at Copse at the start of the BGP in 2005?

And there was one at Imola in 2001. Coming to the end of Lap 1 into the last chicane Montoya outbreaks Panis on the outside going in and comes out on the inside..... Seriously clever move problem is you could only just see it starting on the TV as it followed the leading cars through the turn.

For good race action how about John Watson's multiple overtakes in the 1983 Long Beach GP. A masterclass in racecraft.

Recently Hamilton did 2 cars in one go, was it Melbourne or Sepang???

[Yannick]

Originally Posted by Mr V

One that i really stands out from recent times was Juan Pablo v Kimi at Hockenheim in 2002 iirc. went on for half a lap, most enjoyable.

That's when Tilke's butchering of Hockenheim proved its worth.

[perfectly_frank]

Hakkinen's pass of TGF at Spa - I can't remember when.
Epic how they split around a slower car ! ! !

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by perfectly_frank

Hakkinen's pass of TGF at Spa - I can't remember when.
Epic how they split around a slower car ! ! !

Yeah that was amazing... ahn... the slow guy was Ricardo Zonta.

[nobster]

saw the Villeneuve on Schumacher Estoril 1996 move on youtube, for me one of the best ever seen.

[Iron Ripper]

Originally Posted by deletraz

Always fond of Montoya at the bus stop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZu7-A2yS0

That is great move, cause Montoya before the entire S-bend turn is completely behind Schumacher and appears near him only mid-turn.
Also liked Montoya's take on Schumacher in Nurburgring at Dunlop curve 2003 (if I'm correct). Haven't seen anybody overtaking anyone there.
I also know the one in Hockenheim 2004 where Sato was battling Trulli before the 180degree. But just before the corner Webber took a risky pass and got past Trulli, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sIZjVFZu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uXaJzCmauM
(at 0:15)

[Iron Ripper]

Check out this one, great driving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBTq1nm0jA

[Chatters]

Originally Posted by Iron Ripper

That is great move, cause Montoya before the entire S-bend turn is completely behind Schumacher and appears near him only mid-turn.
Also liked Montoya's take on Schumacher in Nurburgring at Dunlop curve 2003 (if I'm correct). Haven't seen anybody overtaking anyone there.
I also know the one in Hockenheim 2004 where Sato was battling Trulli before the 180degree. But just before the corner Webber took a risky pass and got past Trulli, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4sIZjVFZu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uXaJzCmauM
(at 0:15)

That first video - Is that a young Sebastian Vettel in the Ferrari pit at 1:47 in the video???

[Iron Ripper]

Originally Posted by Chatters

That first video - Is that a young Sebastian Vettel in the Ferrari pit at 1:47 in the video???

In 2003 Vettel was under BMW name, so, though it really looks like him, that would be exactly the opposite party. The guy looks puzzled like: 'how the hell he did that one?'

[Andy77]

it still is Bellofs move against Arnoux at the 1984 Monacco GP

[luke]

With out doubt Michael Schumacher's move on Rubens Barrichello approaching the line at the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix.
Michael couldn't match Rubens' pace during the race but didn't give up and took full advantage of Rubens taking it easy to the line exiting the final turn.

[Mr V]

sorry, couldn't help myself

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Mr V

sorry, couldn't help myself

Lol!