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Old Yesterday, 00:13 (Ref:4086371)   #2896
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Let’s hope the conversation stays on the actual issue rather than conveniently being changed to who and how someone talked about it.

The last bit of that quote is the key.
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Let’s hope the conversation stays on the actual issue rather than conveniently being changed to who and how someone talked about it.

The last bit of that quote is the key.
Adam - no intent to push this as a 'Hamilton did this' type of situation. More an indication that drivers are aware of the issues surrounding racing in these locations, but that they only have a limited influence over the locations.

Coming from the BBC's Chief F1 writer, it's hardly surprising (much as many would wish otherwise) that the focus has been on the highest profile Brit in the sport.
The linked article does also mention Vettel later on:
Four-time champion Sebastian Vettel, who has also expressed his concern on human rights issues this season, organised a karting event for women on Thursday in Jeddah.
The Aston Martin driver said: "I was thinking of what I can do. In general, we have so much focus on negative examples when it comes to shortcomings of certain countries in regards to human rights and other things."
Vettel said he "was trying to pass on some of my experiences in life and on track to do something together to grow their confidence" and said he had been "inspired" by the women who attended the event.
He added: "It's true obviously if we look through a western-European lens there are lot of things that should be improved and have to be addressed. But it's also true some things are changing and for those people it makes a big difference.
"It's clear some things aren't going the way they should but that's our point of view. It's also probably true that things take time and it's progress."



I think that it takes a collective effort to either:
A) convince F1 as a whole to take a stand
B) convince the countries in question to change their standards

All of this has to start with small, individual efforts. If one or two drivers making a public gesture is enough to keep the conversation in the public domain, then credit to them I say.
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I suppose the major Western European governments could look at sanctioning the FIA, FOM, or teams to get the series' attention (a bit more) off of the dollar signs.
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I suppose the major Western European governments could look at sanctioning the FIA, FOM, or teams to get the series' attention (a bit more) off of the dollar signs.
Saudi Arabia is considered a strategic and economic ally by those governments.
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Saudi Arabia is considered a [...] economic ally by those governments.


And a very big one at that - keeps the taxes down in some places with Saudi money.
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Saudi Arabia is considered a strategic and economic ally by those governments.

Not wanting to get too cynical and off topic but because of that, Saudi Arabia is a very lucrative arms market and keeps many people who work in the defense industry in their jobs.
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Adam - no intent to push this as a 'Hamilton did this' type of situation.
It was more of a general point not at your post.
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