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Old 15 Mar 2010, 16:01 (Ref:2652747)   #1
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What now for the cars?

what happens next....

will somebody buy the whole package & try to revive A1?
Formula woman?
Ferrari's customer division?
Hamilton snr's customer F1 tests?
Euroboss / BOSS GP?
Auto GP?
Never to run in anger again?

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Old 15 Mar 2010, 17:44 (Ref:2652825)   #2
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There's a lot of money going into motorsport from the Middle East at the moment. Some wealthy Sheik to buy them and run a series out in the middle east (Dubal, Abu Dubai, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain)? Maybe during the winter months, other than that I'm not really sure where they may end up. The ultimate corporate or rich boy driver experience in some exotic Southern European location maybe!
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Old 17 Mar 2010, 23:23 (Ref:2654588)   #3
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Never run in anger again........split up and used as relivered show cars.
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Old 18 Mar 2010, 12:17 (Ref:2654815)   #4
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That is the disadvantage of all these series, everyone invests enormous amounts of money in new cars that are used for maybe 3 years. There are worthless cars from A1gp, champcars, f3000, world series by nissan, Formula nippon, etc. that ran just a couple of months/years ago.

Just imagine that the fia would have mandated a new rulebook 10 years ago which would offer a racing serie 4 different types of technical rules. The start-up level (a la Formula ford), the junior level (a la formula 3 or wsr), the 2nd division (a la f3000/gp2) and the toplevel (f1).

Any new serie would only be allowed to receive FIA-approvel if they ran 1 of these technical packages. This would have resulted in all these series (a1gp, gp2/f3000, superlague, world series, etc.) run the same cars, which would have saved tens of millions of $ in r&d and construction of cars that now are worthless. Money that could have been used on building commercially strong series. It also would have resulted in fewer series, higher grids and less financial risks for teams. Easier and less costly for talents to move up (get experience in the cheaper national serie and move up to the international serie with the same car the next year). etc. etc.
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Old 18 Mar 2010, 13:13 (Ref:2654836)   #5
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Good thinking, althougheven with this structure with the excepetion of Formula Ford you still need a kings ransom to be able to run in F3 or GP2. I think the last estimates I heard for GP2 was a million for a season and best part of half a million for top level F3. Apologies if I've got that wrong. Series like FPA and F2 seem a bit more real world in terms of cost. The A1GP cars or similar could be used to bridge the gap between F2 and F1. Any ideas on a budget for running and A1GP car for a season would be, say just in Europe?
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Old 18 Mar 2010, 19:34 (Ref:2655062)   #6
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That is the disadvantage of all these series, everyone invests enormous amounts of money in new cars that are used for maybe 3 years. There are worthless cars from A1gp, champcars, f3000, world series by nissan, Formula nippon, etc. that ran just a couple of months/years ago.

Just imagine that the fia would have mandated a new rulebook 10 years ago which would offer a racing serie 4 different types of technical rules. The start-up level (a la Formula ford), the junior level (a la formula 3 or wsr), the 2nd division (a la f3000/gp2) and the toplevel (f1).

Any new serie would only be allowed to receive FIA-approvel if they ran 1 of these technical packages. ...
I largely agree with the exception of details. There are far too many series, and it would be best if the system was pared down to four series, like you propose (however, I would ensure that the bottom step is slicks and wings unlike FFord). In an ideal world, the structure for single seaters (with the exception of IndyCars et al, who can plod along themselves) would be for national FJnr, zonal or national F3 (with a continental Grand Slam), continental F2 (with a world final) and F1. By F2 I'm not talking about the current one, and F3 would need substantial reform.

Irritatingly someone might think of European Commission issues, which would be unfortunate. It doesn't stop other sporting bodies actually making rules - we would laugh if the IRB were banned from regulating what sort of boots the players wear, the FIA should be able to limit equipment in their sport too.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 21:51 (Ref:3019584)   #7
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I know this is long dead but... I hope they run in BOSS GP.
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I know this is long dead but... I hope they run in BOSS GP.
They won't.
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Old 22 Mar 2012, 10:34 (Ref:3046478)   #9
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now what do we have here??

http://www.a1worldcup.com/
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Old 22 Mar 2012, 18:46 (Ref:3046708)   #10
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Didn't most of the cars go into becoming the Auto GP Series after being updated with new bodywork?
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Old 22 Mar 2012, 19:06 (Ref:3046723)   #11
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Didn't most of the cars go into becoming the Auto GP Series after being updated with new bodywork?
The Lolas morphed into Auto GP cars; however, the Ferrari machines are out there somewhere. I'd be astounded if anything akin to A1GP takes place though.
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The Lolas morphed into Auto GP cars; however, the Ferrari machines are out there somewhere. I'd be astounded if anything akin to A1GP takes place though.
You could bet that Ferrari sold them as "Schumi's F2004" to some wealthy collectors... At least, it's partially true, since these cars are F2004 clones.
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Old 22 Mar 2012, 19:06 (Ref:3046722)   #13
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now what do we have here??

http://www.a1worldcup.com/
A ****take is what you have there.
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Old 26 Mar 2012, 21:19 (Ref:3049031)   #14
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now what do we have here??

http://www.a1worldcup.com/
Particularly liked a bit on the privacy page

"This policy is in effect from [date]"

The one page with anything vaguely resembling information is balls.
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Old 9 Aug 2012, 10:08 (Ref:3117884)   #15
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Two separate groups are bidding for A1GP's assets (including the Ferrari cars) and planning to revive the series:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101756

The article says that one of the bidders is the A10 World Series group, who now reportedly have backing from Australia, while the second bidder is the A1 World Cup group, believed to be based in the Netherlands.
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Two separate groups are bidding for A1GP's assets (including the Ferrari cars) and planning to revive the series:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101756

The article says that one of the bidders is the A10 World Series group, who now reportedly have backing from Australia, while the second bidder is the A1 World Cup group, believed to be based in the Netherlands.
I'm sure the cars would need refurbishing as well as engines.
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I came across this thread, what has happened with the Ferrari powered cars since the series went bust?
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 17:07 (Ref:3395110)   #18
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The liquidators put them up for sale so I guess they're sitting somewhere and have been separated. No sign really....
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Shame, they looked better then the first gen. Cars that are still driving in various series nowadays.
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A1GP "Ferrari" cars finally purchased

http://www.racer.com/international-r...ally-purchased

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Finally!

Loved this series - but these Ferrari cars sounded dreadful compared to the version 1 A1GP car.

Isn't the ol' Lola still going in AutoGP?! Unbelievable shelf-life those cars have had!
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There might be a bit of work to come to make them run.. Magneti Marelli have the ECUs, dashboards & steering wheels back in Italy... according to the article
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https://www.facebook.com/afrixmotorsport

There Facebook page has been fairly active although no post since May 29th.
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The Lola cars will race next year in the middle east as "FA1 Middle East"

http://autosport.nl/klasse/nieuws/25...st-trophy-2016

http://www.isra.nl/
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The Lola cars will race next year in the middle east as "FA1 Middle East"

http://autosport.nl/klasse/nieuws/25...st-trophy-2016

http://www.isra.nl/
Blimey, those cars have definitely been well-used. They're 10+ years old! Fantastic sounding pieces of kit.
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