F1 goes to Sky sports

[Born Racer]

Originally Posted by Thaw Daggerslash

I wonder what planet BBC, Sky, the teams, everyone is on when they say this is "great" for the fans. I'm failing to see how it is great in the least little way.

Oh, that's simple. The teams have sucked up to Bernie since time immemorial (well, not immemorial: when he started earning them megabucks). In the long-term, they may suffer somewhat. The sport will suffer in myriad unquantifiable ways. It's not that interest will drop as such; but new interest will not be generated. It will also damage grassroots motorsport which needed all the help it could get.

[Adam43]

This new channel looks great.

[Born Racer]

Originally Posted by MagnetON

Announcing the new channel,Barney Francis, Managing Director of Sky Sports, said: “Formula 1 followers are hungry for more

No, they aren't. They were happy with BBC levels of coverage.

Originally Posted by MagnetON

“We can now tell the whole story of the season"

What are they going to do - hack the drivers' phones?

Originally Posted by MagnetON

“With a dedicated channel for Formula 1 we can also give all sports fans the depth and breadth of sports they demand every weekend, right through the year.”

I don't want F1 every weekend. Just the weekends it's on. And they still think F1 fans are fans of all their other sports, or are pretending to.

Originally Posted by MagnetON

Jeremy Darroch,Sky’s Chief Executive, added: “This brand new channel again proves just how much money we had to bundle Bernie".

[MagnetON]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

No, they aren't. They were happy with BBC levels of coverage.

Personally I'd like more, I'd like more indepth coverage of techincal articles and I'm sure with the extended airtime available we'll see them. I'd be happy to see all the little technical inserts expanded. Marty getting to put together an hour on tyre testing rather than a 5 minute insert, that's the kind of extra depth I'm hoping for.

Originally Posted by Born Racer

I don't want F1 every weekend. Just the weekends it's on.

I'd like to have that choice.

[Born Racer]

Originally Posted by MagnetON

Personally I'd like more, I'd like more in-depth coverage of techincal articles

Me too.

Originally Posted by MagnetON

I'd like to have that choice.

Me too, but I sense it's going to be more along the lines of News of the World-esque fluff. So it will be 'Cooking an Italian-influenced barbecue with Daniel Ricciardaroo'.

[henners88]

Originally Posted by MagnetON

Personally I'd like more, I'd like more indepth coverage of techincal articles and I'm sure with the extended airtime available we'll see them. I'd be happy to see all the little technical inserts expanded. Marty getting to put together an hour on tyre testing rather than a 5 minute insert, that's the kind of extra depth I'm hoping for.

You're lucky to have that much time to dedicate to watching the TV. My wife thinks the 3 hour coverage is far too long and thinks the SKY deal is fantastic as she thinks its time for me to get a life instead of watching so much F1 lol.

I would have been happy with full race re-runs on the BBC as that still wouldn't take any of the excitement out of things if you don't know the results anyway.

[Born Racer]

The problem, even with re-runs henners is that you cannot use live timing, which I exploit a great deal during races. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the RTL route and my new German evening course.

[henners88]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

The problem, even with re-runs henners is that you cannot use live timing, which I exploit a great deal during races. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the RTL route and my new German evening course.

Yeah I've done the same in the past myself and I appreciate that. Its also annoying for people on forums when others have seen the race delayed because the same points and opinions get repeated. I know I won't be going through threads to see if the point I want to make has already been discussed. Thats just something people will have to put up with. Still as a last resort I wouldn't have minded delayed re-runs as at least you will get to see the whole race.

Its a bit weird watching highlights and screaming on your knees over something that happened hours earlier too lol. I did consider the RTL route but its too much hassle setting it up to be used for only 10 races a year IMO. I'd rather the figures take a hit and I'll watch it on the internet for free lol.

[Born Racer]

Re-runs would have been more welcome, as in the highlights, they tend to gloss over the change in laps, i.e. just changing shot and trying to make it look seamless, when it would be more beneficial to have a commentary laid over it that acknowledges the change in the part of the race being shown.

I suspect it was a part of the deal though.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by henners88

@MagnetON You're lucky to have that much time to dedicate to watching the TV.

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

The problem, even with re-runs henners is that you cannot use live timing, which I exploit a great deal during races. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the RTL route and my new German evening course.

you can with various live time apps available for your smart phone or tablet device....obviously that just costs you more money though.

Originally Posted by MagnetON

... THE FULL SEASON IN-DEPTH:Over nine full months, viewers will have a wealth of programmes with in-depth interviews, archive action and weekly magazine shows.

one thing that is noticed mentioned in the Sky release that does not seem to getting much attention is the mention of archive action. i am sure more details will emerge but if they mean classic races then all i can say is it is about time.

[Adam43]

The beeb showed some classic races on red button. However if these are on a dedicated channel. Mmmmmm, lovely.

Also for those who like that kind of thing ESPN Classic show old GP footage too.

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by henners88

I would have been happy with full race re-runs on the BBC as that still wouldn't take any of the excitement out of things if you don't know the results anyway.

I'm sure that Jake said that "non-live" races would be a 2 hour program with full race re-runs?

[bravo]

Originally Posted by Mr V

I'm sure that Jake said that "non-live" races would be a 2 hour program with full race re-runs?

He said it would be a full 2 hour programme.

That could mean 20 minutes of build-up, 90 minutes of race highlights, then 10 minutes for podium and post-race interviews.

Virginmedia have not announced if they have got an agreement for the Sky F1 channel yet. I hope if they do get it, they will bundle it with sports & HD as Sky plan to. If I have to buy the sports package then I'll also be signing up on Born Racer's German evening class.

Virgin announcement here: http://my.virginmedia.com/customer-news/articles/SKYF1/

[TrapezeArtist]

(moved from sky commentators thread asitvwas off topic there).

I don't care who it is, because I won't be watching Sky.

I will watch the races on BBC, so that's a half of one viewer they've lost by this change. I'm sure there will be many more.

If all this dodgy dealing was done to save the BBC money, they should have just done a lower budget version of what they've done this year. We really don't need that many presenters, nor that many cameramen and other techies.

This is a far more retrograde step than when F1 moved from BBC to ITV.

[joe rossi]

I guess me and F1 will be ending our relationship here then.

I have Virgin, but not the sports channels, and I certainly won't be paying for them just to line Bernie's pockets.

I have been gradually losing interest in F1 over the last few years anyway and as I will be unlikely to avoid the results ecvery week until BBC decide to show us the highlights there seems to be little point in pretending I'm going to remain a fan for much longer.

F1 will become something I catch occasionally if it is on BBC live, a bit like the occasional England game.

What a shame it has come to this..I guess I'll be bowing out of 10 Tenths too after 8 years or so..

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Originally Posted by TrapezeArtist

I don't care who it is, because I won't be watching Sky.

I will watch the races on BBC, so that's a half of one viewer they've lost by this change. I'm sure there will be many more.

If all this dodgy dealing was done to save the BBC money, they should have just done a lower budget version of what they've done this year. We really don't need that many presenters, nor that many cameramen and other techies.

This is a far more retrograde step than when F1 moved from BBC to ITV.

Insiders from both ITV and BBC on a broadcast forum site, have pointed out the actual cost of the production ... the things that you suggest should be cut... are in fact tiny compared to the cost of the broadcast rights themselves.

This is proven by the fact that the BBC will be taking an identically sized team with the same/development equipment to each race next year as they have this year.
That's regardless of they have whether Live or Highlights coverage

It's by sharing the costs of the broadcast rights with Sky that the BBC has saved so much money.

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by joe rossi

What a shame it has come to this..I guess I'll be bowing out of 10 Tenths too after 8 years or so..

That is a shame.

[henners88]

Originally Posted by Mr V

That is a shame.

Its bound to happen though and forums will become slightly lighter next year with regular members cutting down their input. You will gain new fans however to even things out.

[henners88]

Originally Posted by bravo

He said it would be a full 2 hour programme.

That could mean 20 minutes of build-up, 90 minutes of race highlights, then 10 minutes for podium and post-race interviews.

Precisely. A 2 hour programme does not mean 2 hours of pure racing. I think we'll be lucky to get 90 minutes and it'll be more likely be 70 minutes IMO. As long as all the action is covered and the BBC manage to present it in a way that doesn't skip multiple laps ruining any of the excitement. To be honest thats going to be a difficult job and they know how much pressure they are going to be under from fans so they have to get it very right. If the highlights programme doesn't deliver as promised, then there will be a bigger backlash than ever.

[MagnetON]

Originally Posted by henners88

You're lucky to have that much time to dedicate to watching the TV.

No kids and married to EvilPumpkin

[henners88]

Originally Posted by MagnetON

No kids and married to EvilPumpkin

I've not got children (yet) and married to a woman with a slightly prettier name than 'EvilPumpkin' lol no offence..

I hope that isn't his/her real name??

[MagnetON]

Originally Posted by henners88

I've not got children (yet) and married to a woman with a slightly prettier name than 'EvilPumpkin' lol no offence..

I hope that isn't his/her real name??

lol, I think there's a lot more people in motorsport know her by EvilPumpkin or EP than by her real name!

[henners88]

Originally Posted by MagnetON

lol, I think there's a lot more people in motorsport know her by EvilPumpkin or EP than by her real name!

I'm sure there is, they must be the lucky ones.

[Adam43]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...do-better.html

Originally Posted by DC

A lot of negative stuff has been written but I don’t think it’s the disaster it has been painted as.

The rivalry will ensure top quality coverage.

Sky will cater to the hardcore who want wall-to-wall F1, and those with money to burn, while the BBC will continue to produce high-quality coverage both live and in extended highlights packages, online and on the Red Button.

I like how the last sentence reads like it is from Crazy D.