[Rules] The FIA - what's occurring there?

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by E.B

On paper it sounds like MBS wants to be Judge, jury and governor of his own questionable behaviour.... in effect putting himself in a dictatorial position.

Do as I say not as I do springs to mind.

Maybe my suspicious mind is reading more into what is being suggested than I fear.

We can only hope it never gets beyond the proposal stage.

I think there is no other way to read it. And it is blatant. I think there is no way to disassemble your own in-house governance organization and paint a pretty face on it. Especially given a history of reports of ethical and financial impropriety. A Motorsports.com article says that he is currently unopposed in the upcoming election. So this is to solidify power and grant himself the ability to do specific things without oversight.

It seems he is clearly on the path to be the next Sepp Blatter.

Here is a cynical view... FOM allows FIA to become a cesspool of corruption so that when they break away from the FIA, they can say "It's not about money or self control, we just don't want to be associated with the mess that is the FIA. The FIA is dragging us down into the mud. We have to protect our own ethics and investments."

Richard

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by E.B

On paper it sounds like MBS wants to be Judge, jury and governor of his own questionable behaviour.... in effect putting himself in a dictatorial position.

Do as I say not as I do springs to mind.

Maybe my suspicious mind is reading more into what is being suggested than I fear.

We can only hope it never gets beyond the proposal stage.

That's exactly what it sounds like. These rule changes would effectively prevent anyone within the FIA, from questioning or challenging the conduct or decisions made by MBS.

As the BBC article says: ''In essence, critics say the changes would neutralise the ability of whistleblowers to expose questionable behaviour to the ethics and audit committees, and the ability of those committees to pursue actions against any wrongdoing.''

Originally Posted by Richard C

Here is a cynical view... FOM allows FIA to become a cesspool of corruption so that when they break away from the FIA, they can say "It's not about money or self control, we just don't want to be associated with the mess that is the FIA. The FIA is dragging us down into the mud. We have to protect our own ethics and investments."

Richard

I quite like the cynical view.

[Mike Harte]

Not wishing to bring politics in to this matter, but there is symmetry to it, but this is very similar to what happened in the UK in the last few years. This was when the then Prime Minister who, along with friends in his parliamentary party, were being investigated by the person responsible for ensuring standards were maintained, decided unilaterally to abolish the post.

This was such a blatant attempt to subvert natural justice that all the media, even those that supported his party, poured deep scorn on the move, and it had to be dropped, thankfully. The system is still not perfect, but at least a prime minister is not able to be judge, jury and executioner on not only his own behaviour and actions, but also those of other members of parliament. It does leaver one major problem in that the person chosen for the post is in the gift of the PM of the time.

[midgetman]

Originally Posted by Richard C

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Here is a cynical view... FOM allows FIA to become a cesspool of corruption so that when they break away from the FIA, they can say "It's not about money or self control, we just don't want to be associated with the mess that is the FIA. The FIA is dragging us down into the mud. We have to protect our own ethics and investments."



Richard

Yes I totally agree. I've said (maybe here or elsewhere in the forum) that I can see F1 breaking away from the FIA and sooner r rather than later.



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[chernaudi]

I'm in favor of the FIA as a sanctioning body having more say over the sport--the FIA should focus on sporting matters (technical regs, sporting regs, logistics, etc) and FOM should focus on the commercial side of the business.


However, the FIA is set up to function almost as a democratic republic form of government as a body. One man--in this case MBS--having almost unchallenged power does cross the line of what makes sense as far as how the FIA is structured. And yes, Mosley and more so Balestre did push the boundaries of what the FIA Senate, GA and WMSC allowed them, and those bodies pushed back and Max and J-M paid for it in the end.


I do wonder if MBS can actually get into legal trouble with a or multiple governments or government bodies in Europe or elsewhere if he goes too far?

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by chernaudi

I do wonder if MBS can actually get into legal trouble with a or multiple governments or government bodies in Europe or elsewhere if he goes too far?

He might dismantle the checks and balances inside the FIA, but if his actions delve into criminal behavior then yes. FIFA has shown how it can go in that direction.

Richard

[Skam85]

Like I said, he's Temu Balestre