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Old 10 Aug 2018, 18:07 (Ref:3842840)   #91
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IMSA and SC365 are reporting that Detroit is confirmed with a three-year extension.
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Old 10 Aug 2018, 21:04 (Ref:3842888)   #92
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Seems a wrap to me.
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Excellent.
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Excellent. This is what the series needs, building on a stable platform of traditional races and then expanding.
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Excellent. This is what the series needs, building on a stable platform of traditional races and then expanding.
Traditional and poorly attended? They could keep going to Phoenix for that and fewer cars would be broken. Detroit is a BORE that lines Penske's pockets, it should have been let go and replaced but Indy needs Penske too much.
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Traditional and poorly attended? They could keep going to Phoenix for that and fewer cars would be broken. Detroit is a BORE that lines Penske's pockets, it should have been let go and replaced but Indy needs Penske too much.
Detroit has produced some great racing over the years. When Phoenix came back on the calendar it didn't live up to expectations and now it's gone.

Fewer cars would be broken? The first lap accident at Phoenix in 2017, practically wiped out half the field? The previous year there were 6 FCYs.

If Detroit is lining Penske's pockets, the last time Team Penske won, was at Race 2 in 2016.
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I don't get the mindless bashing of Belle Isle either. The racing with the DW12 chassis has been quite good, especially on the Long Course, which they've been using since 2013. It may be a rough, non-permanent course, but so is Toronto, or any number of others. It's not filled with 90-degree corners, and isn't in the middle of an industrial wasteland or stadium carpark. On average speed, it's actually been a bit quicker than the layout at Sonoma that IndyCar hs been using.
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It's not mindless bashing. Detroit is a street circuit and some like them. Some don't.

I like it but prefer maybe an annual swap between Detroit and the Burke Lakefront Airport.
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If the complaint, "boring" (i.e. no passing, no close action, slow, tight, twisty), is inaccurate, then the criticism is mindless.

I'd like Cleveland on the calendar, sure, but I don't mind Detroit having an annual event too. I don't think you'd retain audience just doing it every other year. Look what's happened to other events that missed only a single year, like Toronto.

All that said, I'd be more than fine with simply having one race on Belle Isle; just make that one 85 laps, instead of the current double with 70 apiece.
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Whether something is boring or not is a matter of opinion, not accurate or inaccurate.
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It wouldn't bug me so much, but Belle Isle seems to get an inordinate amount of it, and the items I listed are the main culprits as far as opt-cited "reasons" for the ire towards the venue.

And I'm just going "Really?". This isn't the downtown Detroit street circuit, the Caesar's Palace carpark, Fair Park (1984), Phoenix (F1), San Antonio (1987-88), New Orleans (1991), Bayfront Park (2002-03), the 2005 iteration of San Jose, Houston (Reliant Park), or Long Beach (1982-91). I could include more if I go into Trans-Am (like Grand Rapids, Niagara Falls, and the 1988 version of Fair Park), but you get the picture.

Anyway, if there are still going to be 17 races in 2019, then there's got to be something else new/returning coming along. I think we've already taken a definite step up with the move from the IndyCar layout at Sonoma to Laguna Seca.
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I have certainly enjoyed the Detroit races the past few years.
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