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Old 19 Aug 2018, 17:26 (Ref:3844741)   #76
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What is the beef with Carlos Sr?
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Old 19 Aug 2018, 17:48 (Ref:3844745)   #77
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His whole entourage have a reputation for endless political whining to the Spanish lingo journos
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Old 20 Aug 2018, 00:09 (Ref:3844864)   #78
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Yet Red Bull seem OK with Jos the Boss. Or else Max is too valuable to sacrifice, which, on reflection, seems more likely.
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Old 20 Aug 2018, 09:01 (Ref:3844907)   #79
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Yet Red Bull seem OK with Jos the Boss. Or else Max is too valuable to sacrifice, which, on reflection, seems more likely.

Jos was banned from the paddock by the team for a couple/few races last year as it was deemed that he was interfering with the smooth running of the operation.
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 09:59 (Ref:3845154)   #80
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Helmut Marko on Alonso: “We were negotiating with him in 2007 or 2008. His demands were very tedious back then.” Ouch.
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 14:58 (Ref:3845219)   #81
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what season did RBR start using Renault engines?

RB, Marko, Horner, Renault, Alonso, Briatore...sounds tedious!

was Briatore still Webber's manager at that time?
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 15:14 (Ref:3845222)   #82
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2007 with the RB3 (2005 was Cosworth, 2006 Ferrari)
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 15:17 (Ref:3845223)   #83
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RB, Marko, Horner, Renault, Alonso, Briatore...sounds tedious!

was Briatore still Webber's manager at that time?
2007 with the RB3. The previous year they used Ferrari but switched the contract in 2007 to STR
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 15:28 (Ref:3845225)   #84
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yeah thats what i thought...cheers guys

2007 and 2008 negotiations between all these parties must have been pretty complicated.

Alonso had a habit of finding himself in the wrong place but still interesting to think about what could have been had he landed in RB in 07/08.
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 20:22 (Ref:3845274)   #85
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Well he would probably have romped to the title in 2010
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Old 21 Aug 2018, 21:09 (Ref:3845286)   #86
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Well he would probably have romped to the title in 2010
unless of course he didn't
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Helmut Marko on Alonso: “We were negotiating with him in 2007 or 2008. His demands were very tedious back then.” Ouch.
In other words, he wanted more money than they were prepared to pay him!
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Or he wanted number-one status spelled out contractually.
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Old 23 Aug 2018, 19:25 (Ref:3845613)   #90
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He now claims Red Bull offered him a seat for 2019, while Red Bull say it ain’t so. On this occasion, I’m inclined to believe Red Bull.
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Old 23 Aug 2018, 19:41 (Ref:3845618)   #91
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I'm more inclined to believe Alonso, it's not like he's ever lied about anything before.
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I did chuckle at this comment from Dr Marko though

"If you look at his history, in McLaren and Ferrari, it was always a one-man show," said Marko. "That doesn't fit with us."

Mark Webber would like a word..
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Doesn't surprise me, Marko is always full of it, and himself.
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Unlike the Spaniard...
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I seriously doubt though it was a serious offer from Red Bull
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Alonso now expecting an apology from Red Bull. Good luck with that, Fernando.
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is there a bigger fraud in sport (who still gets token respect) than marko?

ooh good on you, you found vettel. a blind donkey could see he can drive. now let's list the blokes you punted after a poor race or made permanent #2 to your chosen ones...
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I thought Vettel was a BMW junior?
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