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Old 12 Sep 2003, 12:22 (Ref:716291)   #1
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ELVA Mk7 & 8

Can anyone help with chassis numbers/history of Elva Mk7 & 8 that raced in the UK. I have identified the following, mainly from programmes -

Mk 7 (I think 69 were made between 1963 and 1965)
1963
Doug Graham 1100cc Ford Blue/yellow For sale Oct 63
Ewen Paul 1100 Climax Blue Still raced in 64. Debut Brands March 63. Recent advert says chassis 05 which fits timewise.
Steve Minoprio (Eq Elva London) 1100 Ford Green. Race debut Goodwood Easter 63
Robin Benson (Eq Elva London) 1100 Climax DNA Goodwood Easter 63
Elva Cars/ Bill Moss 1600 Ford Silver Debut Goodwood Easter 63
T Lanfranchi (Team Crostune) Ford 1600 For sale Oct 63
Elva Cars/ Mike Beckwith Porsche at Boxing Day Brands - probably exported thereafter

1964
T Lanfranchi/Eq Elva BMW green with silver strip Easter Goodwood
David Prophet 1100 Ford Green Easter Goodwood - still entered in 1966
Willment BMW red/white stip for sale Oct 64
T Taylor BMW yellow at Tourist Trophy, then raced by Lanfranchi at Crystal Palace etc
John Barnes supercharged Ford in hill climbs blue (I think)

1965
Bill Forbes BMW Red Rufforth Easter 65
Chris Williams (driven by Gethin and Lanfranchi) yellow/black
K ST John (Radio London) BMW purple I think this was chassis 065. For sale May 66
P Linton 1100 Ford Purple/white. Later 1600 engine in early 66
Willment BMW presumably 64 car unsold
P C O Roberts BMW Silver still raced in 66
A Clegg Butt BMW White entered Croft 15/8/65

1966
R Scott BMW Red ex Forbes?
A Eccles/C Ashmore Climax V8 1.5
T Howard BMW Brands Boxing Day
R Terry BMW hill climb car later with Buick V8

Mk8
1965
Wks/McLaren rcg usually driven by Amon BMW red/silver
Also an all red car ??
1966
Malcolm Wayne BRM (NOT BMW) white/black strips
Any extra data welcomed!!
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Old 12 Sep 2003, 16:18 (Ref:716615)   #2
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RAP. Knew Keith St John well, and yes his car was purple, sponsored and entered by Radio London. There is an unidentified photo of this car on Motor Racing Retro's web site in the Mystery page taken in 1964 at Silverstone.
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Old 13 Sep 2003, 06:42 (Ref:717126)   #3
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Sorry, can’t help with early numbers
A couple of comments, however
•I have Barnes hillclimbing his car, with BMC engine, in 1963, before the Ford engine went in for the following year
•I also have Beckwith’s Porsche-engined 1963 Boxing Day Brands car as a Mk6
•Production figures: I have 29 Mk7 units being produced, plus 42 7S's (of which 19 had Porsche engines and 15 BMW) which makes a combined total of 71
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Old 15 Sep 2003, 16:26 (Ref:719707)   #4
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Thanks for your reply.
Info re Barnes blows a theory that his was the Doug Graham 63 car based on colour + engine
The Beckwith Boxing Day 63 car WAS Mk7 - see photo Autosport 3/1/64 p9. Also, in results.
I wonder if the difference in production figures could be the GT160 model as this was basically a Mk7 (or 8) wasn't it?
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Old 18 Sep 2003, 08:44 (Ref:722786)   #5
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The Keith St.john car was purchased by Dr. Michael Henderson of Australia , who was resident in the U.K. at the time.
The car returned to oz with Michael and was raced by him for a few years with it's BMW engine , sold went through various hands , untill repurchased by Michael about 6/7 years ago , re-restored and is still in his possesion and used in historics.
We also have 2 , I think MK8's , one definately owned by Brian Sampson of Melbourne for many years , BMW again , and I believe ex. U.S.A. about 20 years ago.
The second is ex. Sth. Africa/ Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe, I believe.
Will try to define ch.no. for you.

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Old 18 Sep 2003, 09:05 (Ref:722800)   #6
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Further to the above ,

Dr Michael Henderson's car is ch.no. 70/065.
Mr. Brian Sampson's car is Mk8s 80/10.

Hope this assists. Bryan Miller.
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Old 22 Sep 2003, 08:37 (Ref:726114)   #7
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Thanks very much for your confirmation
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Old 17 Jan 2004, 10:06 (Ref:841387)   #8
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70/013 Sidney Charpilloz (CH) 1963. Red. Climax engine. Hillclimbed in Switzerland. S. Charpilloz remembers he went to Elva and bought the car "for a good price".
He also bought a BMW engined 7S in 1964.
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Old 5 Feb 2009, 02:03 (Ref:2388627)   #9
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70/013 Sidney Charpilloz (CH) 1963. Red. Climax engine. Hillclimbed in Switzerland. S. Charpilloz remembers he went to Elva and bought the car "for a good price".
He also bought a BMW engined 7S in 1964.
in 1965 He bought an Elva mk 8 chassis # 80/06 red and white, sold in 1969 to a french men .
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Old 17 Jan 2004, 14:19 (Ref:841570)   #10
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John Barnes fitted a Supercharged Allard "Dragon" engine in his car. No one has mentioned the Elva MK7 BMW bought new and used on the hills by Ray Terry. He built a new Buick powered 4WD MK8 as well
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Old 17 Jan 2004, 15:19 (Ref:841605)   #11
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There was also one Osca engined Mk7.
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Old 24 Sep 2005, 21:08 (Ref:1415620)   #12
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Elva Mk7s

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Can anyone help with chassis numbers/history of Elva Mk7 & 8 that raced in the UK. I have identified the following, mainly from programmes -

Mk 7 (I think 69 were made between 1963 and 1965)
1963
Doug Graham 1100cc Ford Blue/yellow For sale Oct 63
Ewen Paul 1100 Climax Blue Still raced in 64. Debut Brands March 63. Recent advert says chassis 05 which fits timewise.
Steve Minoprio (Eq Elva London) 1100 Ford Green. Race debut Goodwood Easter 63
Robin Benson (Eq Elva London) 1100 Climax DNA Goodwood Easter 63
Elva Cars/ Bill Moss 1600 Ford Silver Debut Goodwood Easter 63
T Lanfranchi (Team Crostune) Ford 1600 For sale Oct 63
Elva Cars/ Mike Beckwith Porsche at Boxing Day Brands - probably exported thereafter

1964
T Lanfranchi/Eq Elva BMW green with silver strip Easter Goodwood
David Prophet 1100 Ford Green Easter Goodwood - still entered in 1966
Willment BMW red/white stip for sale Oct 64
T Taylor BMW yellow at Tourist Trophy, then raced by Lanfranchi at Crystal Palace etc
John Barnes supercharged Ford in hill climbs blue (I think)

1965
Bill Forbes BMW Red Rufforth Easter 65
Chris Williams (driven by Gethin and Lanfranchi) yellow/black
K ST John (Radio London) BMW purple I think this was chassis 065. For sale May 66
P Linton 1100 Ford Purple/white. Later 1600 engine in early 66
Willment BMW presumably 64 car unsold
P C O Roberts BMW Silver still raced in 66
A Clegg Butt BMW White entered Croft 15/8/65

1966
R Scott BMW Red ex Forbes?
A Eccles/C Ashmore Climax V8 1.5
T Howard BMW Brands Boxing Day
R Terry BMW hill climb car later with Buick V8

Mk8
1965
Wks/McLaren rcg usually driven by Amon BMW red/silver
Also an all red car ??
1966
Malcolm Wayne BRM (NOT BMW) white/black strips
Any extra data welcomed!!
I own the ex-Stirling Moss Mk7S-BMW and have done for 4 years. He bought it from Richard Thwaites in 1987.
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Old 21 Mar 2006, 15:47 (Ref:1555815)   #13
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And here it is, John, at the HSCC Silverstone meeting on 15 October, 2005:-



Along with Richard Oldworth's Mk8 - same meeting:-

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Old 21 Mar 2006, 15:50 (Ref:1555816)   #14
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By the way the ex-Keith St. John Radio London car lives in Sydney where the owner took it in 1967. He is a colleague of mine - Mike Henderson - and he boought it in '67 before emigrating. He still races it today.
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Old 24 Apr 2006, 08:35 (Ref:1593520)   #15
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