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Old 13 Aug 2009, 08:22 (Ref:2520660)   #51
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There's two left, the Historics and Shannons but after the GT pullout there'd be no hesitation at all by the MRC in telling them where to go.
Even a small V8 crowd would be 20 times larger than an average Nationals crowd, even though the Nats will be a better meeting.
Probably fit them in at Shannons Nationals as support category to the Porsche GT3 Cup Challenge . No room on pit lane unfortunately -so they could give it a try out in the boondocks!
Alternatively if they offered enough (cough cough)- room could be made for them . Be like another era when support categories were wanted and not considered a cash cow to bleed ! Is this another link in the wheel turning?
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Old 13 Aug 2009, 09:51 (Ref:2520708)   #52
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Even a small V8 crowd would be 20 times larger than an average Nationals crowd, even though the Nats will be a better meeting.
But the Shannons Nat's would be cheaper and easier to run than the V8's and a heck of a lot less grief for the MRC as well.

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Winton did it in 90 days a couple of years ago when the China round "fell over"
Actually it was more like 9 weeks Trev or around 63 days from the time they physically started the ball rolling.

TC keeps denying it but the rumours keep surfacing so I don't know who to believe at the moment.

Winton has a VMRC round scheduled for the Bahrain weekend so considering none of the regular supports would've made the trek to the Middle East it's a chance for some club level classes to get some exposure to the V8 on track crowds, I don't think Ch7 would show them unless there's a good crash of course
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Old 13 Aug 2009, 09:57 (Ref:2520714)   #53
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But the Shannons Nat's would be cheaper and easier to run than the V8's and a heck of a lot less grief for the MRC as well.

Unless they had the ARC and associated baggage

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Actually it was more like 9 weeks Trev or around 63 days from the time they physically started the ball rolling.

TC keeps denying it but the rumours keep surfacing so I don't know who to believe at the moment.

Winton has a VMRC round scheduled for the Bahrain weekend so considering none of the regular supports would've made the trek to the Middle East it's a chance for some club level classes to get some exposure to the V8 on track crowds, I don't think Ch7 would show them unless there's a good crash of course

Hmm, going by past VMRC rounds, supports would be something like Super TT, FVee, maybe HQ's, even Futureracers (throws cat among pigoens )
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Old 13 Aug 2009, 23:10 (Ref:2521089)   #54
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Unless they had the ARC and associated baggage




Hmm, going by past VMRC rounds, supports would be something like Super TT, FVee, maybe HQ's, even Futureracers (throws cat among pigoens )
So you would run them in super TT?
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Old 14 Aug 2009, 01:53 (Ref:2521132)   #55
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Nah, the V8s might not win...
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Old 17 Aug 2009, 14:24 (Ref:2523039)   #56
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Isn't it amazing with the "incredible" deals we are always hearing about from our friends in Nerang House, that they could manage to take what was such an incredible sanction fee spinner and turn it into the undecided mess that the Bahrain round is at the moment.

It is only in the interest of V8's to do a double header of Bahrain with Abu Dhabi, it lowers the freight costs through sharing of expenses for them, but lets face it, we aren't dealing with poor countries here...Ab Dab have invested (US) 700 MILLION on their circuit and surrounds, Bahrain over 200 million, a hundred grand in freight won't even dent their budgets.

What has happened here is that the middle easterns didn't become that rich from being stupid - and this is the realisation that is hitting home with regard to these events. Stay tuned, there are more swings to go in this golf match and the guy with the driver is no tiger woods...be assured of that.

Three trips so far and still no resolution - they must be praising the FIA for taking so long to get a F1 calendar out so that excuse can be rolled out each time everyone asks what the hec is going on!
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Old 17 Aug 2009, 21:40 (Ref:2523288)   #57
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mmmm, sounds like someone is in the know
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Old 18 Aug 2009, 10:56 (Ref:2523605)   #58
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so how would the v8supercar circus go.using E85 sugarcane fuel in such an oil richh country??....might put noses out of joint?...........also heard at weekend in Benalla that inquiries being made for accommodation for later in year
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Old 18 Aug 2009, 11:31 (Ref:2523621)   #59
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.also heard at weekend in Benalla that inquiries being made for accommodation for later in year
Mr Pig, I also heard that a number of the teams are none too keen to be jetting off to the Mid East in November...

There appears to be considerable dissent amongst the key players (race teams) against the Black Wiggle's plans for world domination !!!

More than one Victorian based team is alleged to have made murmurings about a preference to race in Australia, instead of racing in Bah-humbug,( sorry Bahrain.)
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Old 18 Aug 2009, 11:48 (Ref:2523629)   #60
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so how would the v8supercar circus go.using E85 sugarcane fuel in such an oil richh country??....might put noses out of joint?.........

Have you read Page 2 of this thread...........??
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 09:27 (Ref:2524230)   #61
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Eastern Creek would be a better alternative over Winton.
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 09:39 (Ref:2524238)   #62
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Why?

in fact i cant think of any good reason to support that theory
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 09:48 (Ref:2524245)   #63
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It is an unwritten rule that a first-class championship such as V8 Supercars should not attend a race circuit twice in the one year.
Also, I believe that Eastern Creek is a better spectator circuit than Winton, although I've only been there once.
In theory, isit possible that V8SA could drop this event and only run 12 instead of 13 this year? Better for the smaller teams as well as they would then have a slightly bigger budget for next year.
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 10:44 (Ref:2524269)   #64
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so would you run a race at EC, then two weeks latter the big main event at homebush?

Better check the unwritten rule on that one

oh and the only reason that EC is a better spectator circuit is that is closer to a major city and it has a grand stand. Its viewing in inferior
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so would you run a race at EC, then two weeks latter the big main event at homebush?

Better check the unwritten rule on that one

oh and the only reason that EC is a better spectator circuit is that is closer to a major city and it has a grand stand. Its viewing in inferior
I dont mind standing at the back of the pits at Eastern Creek and watch the cars come over the hill, airborne and down to the right hander....

I am kinda hoping Winton is on... it is good to seee the whole circuit.. and the crowd is usually ok.

Not sure how the city of Benalla will cope with zero notice though!
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Old 19 Aug 2009, 10:47 (Ref:2524272)   #66
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Trouble is EC is just up the road from the Homebush event and even VE$A isn't silly enough to run two events that close together geographically & time wise.

How is EC a better spectator track?? At Winton you can see pretty much all of the track but at EC you cant see too much without reverting to the big screens.

EDIT: Don't you hate it when peckstar beats you to it with the same comments.

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Old 19 Aug 2009, 11:08 (Ref:2524290)   #67
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i should add that bahrain is 4 weeks before hand .not two, still dont think you want the crowds so slose together

Could we go to Malala or wakefield park on short notice
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How clean and tidy is Oran Park??
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How clean and tidy is Oran Park??
Um, it's closing down later on this year. Next year it'll be a set of housing developments.
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They used to run the Amaroo & Oran Park ATCC rounds a week apart

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The track will still be running into December, amongst other events there is a 6hr motorcycle race running in late November
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i should add that bahrain is 4 weeks before hand .not two, still dont think you want the crowds so slose together

Could we go to Malala or wakefield park on short notice
Mallala or Wakefield Park are nowhere near the standard for V8 Supercars, as far as facilities go.
Maybe the date with Eastern Creek/Homebush is a little close, but I still think Eastern Creek is a better option - it also offers Queensland and Victorian teams a fair travelling distance to travel for an event of the championship which shouldn't even be in Australia. As far as Eastern Creek's viewing areas being inferior, well, get back to me after the Homebush race is run and let me know which circuit offers more "inferior" viewing options.
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Old 20 Aug 2009, 08:45 (Ref:2524876)   #72
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Then again if it ran at Winton it would put the Queensland Teams closer to the next roundat Barbagallo in WA!
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Unless they needed to get back to their workshops!!!
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Old 20 Aug 2009, 13:39 (Ref:2525041)   #74
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Wakefield's facilities would handle it, the traffic is the problem. At Winton we could run a round with a week's notice if we had too. Would be a big week, but we car do it.

The other question to ask yourselves is do these tracks want the round??
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At Winton we could run a round with a week's notice if we had too. Would be a big week, but we car do it.
Must be all the hard working staff and willing officials
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