Turn 1 run off at PI

[Armco Bender]

This thread was created to discuss the run off area at Turn 1

Just build a ramp at the end of the gravel trap and like the Dukes of Hazzard cars can go Yeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaa right over the track thus avoiding T boning passing cars.

[Average Punter]

Note from that footage Bezzy was still doing about 120 when the impact would have occurred

[Mach24]

Originally Posted by PVDA

Now, has this footage increased the need to do something cos if Bezzy hadn't thrown out the anchor, stuck his feet through the floor (Fred Flintstone style) and hit the brakes it could've got very ugly.

The simple answer is install a chicane. A fine way to ruin what is a great track, but that will solve the issue!

"Motor racing is dangerous"

[Jacob Black]

Originally Posted by PVDA

Now, has this footage increased the need to do something cos if Bezzy hadn't thrown out the anchor, stuck his feet through the floor (Fred Flintstone style) and hit the brakes it could've got very ugly.

No. As already mentioned by McConville himself, a wall would have killed him, a tyre wall would have sent him back out into turn one, a sand trap isn't really effective in that situation.

The fact is, Bezzy DID brake, the collision didn't happen, and all this knee jerking is really pointless. The tracks main income comes from bikes, it MUST be set up for bike safety first and foremost, and a great deal of work has happened to make it that way. For the record, it's still not unsafe for cars.

At MOST, a different sand trap design is the only thing that should be done, even then, that would probably generate a mezera-esque barrel roll.

[peckstar]

agreed

[aussiefveeracer]

Originally Posted by Jacob Black

No. As already mentioned by McConville himself, a wall would have killed him, a tyre wall would have sent him back out into turn one, a sand trap isn't really effective in that situation.

The fact is, Bezzy DID brake, the collision didn't happen, and all this knee jerking is really pointless. The tracks main income comes from bikes, it MUST be set up for bike safety first and foremost, and a great deal of work has happened to make it that way. For the record, it's still not unsafe for cars.

At MOST, a different sand trap design is the only thing that should be done, even then, that would probably generate a mezera-esque barrel roll.

+1!!!!!!!!!!

Don't know what the fuss is about. I believe all drivers exiting 2 have said they saw something and hence all had appropriate time and judgement (they are racing drivers) to avoid and lessen any impact. Bezzy's footage shows him slowing just enough for McConville to clear and then he got back on the gas. Accident avoided - no dramas. IMHO PI is the safest track in Aust, no point spoiling it.

[PVDA]

Originally Posted by Jacob Black

As already mentioned by McConville himself, a wall would have killed him

With all due respect to MConville but what would he know about the subject of vehicle safety and collisions.......

Also what if he did hit Bezzy and ended up seriously injuring him.

I also dispute the comment that PI is the safest track in Australia. Although I could rattle off names of those killed or seriously injured over the years it is the highest speed full time track in the country and as such will attract large collisions as a result.

[Jacob Black]

There was no collision!!! There is enough room for a driver to see and take evasive action, it's an extremely freak incident, nothing came of it! Do we want motorsport in this country to become like everything else?
Let the nanny state get hold of it and dumb it down? As this thread already said, there is no good option in there, they all have different risks, a knee-jerk reaction to this crash will not only do no good, but makes no sense given the many actual safety issues still needing to be addressed (inside wall on the apex of turn 8 adelaide, tyre bundles in chicanes, etc)

[applecart]

Originally Posted by Jacob Black

There is enough room for a driver to see and take evasive action, it's an extremely freak incident, nothing came of it! Do we want motorsport in this country to become like everything else?

Doubtful there was any chance that bezzy saw him coming till the last second, there was no way he could have taken any real evasive action imo

The last thing you are looking for when driving along there is a car firing from the infield, bezzy would have been checking his mirrors and starting to eye his brake markers etc down into honda, not doing a head check to the left for incoming cars @ 200kph!

I do agree that it was a freak incident though (in so many ways). Just to begin, its very rare for a car to leave the circuit BEFORE turn 1 at the angle/direction that he did. Combine that with many of the other factors involved and we have very much a freak incident.

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by Jacob Black

No. As already mentioned by McConville himself, a wall would have killed him, a tyre wall would have sent him back out into turn one, a sand trap isn't really effective in that situation.

Where do you think they would put the wall? A wall of empty tyres bolted together parallel and reasonably close to turn 3 would stop an errant car from turn 1 crossing the track near turn 3, but it most certainly would NOT cause a car to bounce back onto the track at turn 1.

[johnh875]

If instead of Bezzy being on his own there were 2 or more cars locked in a scrap there would be a lot less chance of them spotting the car coming IMO. I agree with you David, a wall with lots of chained tyres behind the gravel trap seems a workable solution, with an air fence for the bikes.

[PVDA]

We could always put a launching ramp in and let Bass Strait do all the work of slowing the car down when it eventually lands in the water