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Great news for Thompson and one can only hope this can be a proper kickstart to his BTCC career. And always good to see an additional quality car on the grid.
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Autosport had a print circulation of 5,487 in 2023, which was around 1,000 down on the previous year.
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People do argue over the strangest things on here.
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16 May 2024, 15:12 (Ref:4209183) | #3256 | |
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Glad Bobby T is back. He deserves a drive in a top car. Let’s hope he delivers
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16 May 2024, 20:06 (Ref:4209206) | #3257 | |
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I know a bit off topic but Is it just me or will it be good to see some new cars on the grid? For example, Alfa Romeo giulia, Mercedes Benz c class, Audi a3 saloon, jaguar xe, Skoda superb and the new Renault megane! So many cars teams could use, is it the risk of it not working or to expensive? I think it might attract manufacturer support if they did. What you guys think?
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This is it ultimately. No point in spending all that development budget on something you'll get 2 seasons out of. I must admit I'm incredibly curious to see how the new regs look in terms of what they'll be allowing in terms of cars. |
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16 May 2024, 21:19 (Ref:4209216) | #3261 | ||
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Wasn't there a rumour that Kia might be entering soon?
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16 May 2024, 22:13 (Ref:4209218) | #3262 | |
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It's interesting the Alan Gow said in an autosport interview that the cars would be able to be carried over into the new regulations, but in a BTCC preseason interview vid he seemed to suggest something a bit more radical.
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17 May 2024, 06:52 (Ref:4209248) | #3266 | |
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I would guess that the 'radical' might be the types of body allowed - maybe allowing slightly different minimum weights for crossovers (due to CoG being higher).
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My personal view, and many may disagree, is that the great EV revolution is beginning to wane mainly because, unlike cars made in China, producers have not ben able to bring down prices. Until recently, the largest manufacturer was Tesla and Musk has publicly stated he is not going to introduce a lower priced model, and because Tesla has suffered a significant sales downturn, they have just made about 10% of their workforce redundant. Part of the problem is that there is a worldwide shortage of manufacturing capacity to make the batteries needed for EVs. In fact, here in the UK, a proposed huge factory to make them up around the Teeside area has folded twice in the past couple of years. And only last week, the local authority has just "sold" - sold, leased or whatever, I'm can't remember - the land and they are going to build another gigantic facility for "cloud" based technology for the likes of Amazon or Google. Until these concerns are overcome, I'm pretty sure that 2035 date will slip even further into the distance. I should add that I have nothing against the technology, and yes, we should be doing what we can to reduce emissions, even though I have lived long enough to remember how poor the air quality was back in the 50s and 60s, even in to the 70s, with smog and fog so thick that it was difficult to even see the white lines down the middle of the road. |
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However, manufacturers stopping making ICE cars - Focus production to finish 2025 if I recall, Fiesta I think already finished?, not sure about other manufacturers. Personally think cutting ICE production will push up values of second hand cars? I'm early 60's, still in full time employment, but would I buy an EV? You can get Nissan Leaf etc at auction for around £6k, but if retired or not working, I doubt I could afford repair bills if needed new battery or other related serious issues, likewise if my combi boiler failed, how are a lot of people going to be able to afford a Heat Pump, if have room to install one - not convinced EV will be only solution going forward - Back to new models for BTCC, around the world new solutions being sought, Nascar a silhouette series by the look of it, V8 Supercars likewise, every BTCC car only the shell really off the road car - and where possible the engine off a related vehicle, unlikely to ever get manufacturer involvement again, New regs an exiting time, possibly too early to be as radical as some, but so many possibilities, and for me the BTCC is as much about the drivers as the cars - I've seen various GT series on Youtube but without knowing anything about the drivers does not mean a lot to me. We'll all have ideas, possibly a standard subframe etc., where teams can put any bodyshell, within agreed parameters and engine capacity etc.. but with some sort of budget cap so try and level the field as much as possible - cream will always rise, but no total dominance - seeing the Legends at weekend, great entertainment though love to see what full size versions race like, and much lower budgets - roll a Legend, may need some work on the subframe cage etc and a new shell, roll a Porsche or even a BTCC car major budget hit |
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If raw materials are in short supply, I think we will see manufacturers reducing the number of models in their range - which is already happening. If you look at the semi conductor shortage (for example) Kia took the auto gearbox option off the range apart from the Sportage and Sorento. |
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17 May 2024, 11:51 (Ref:4209274) | #3272 | |
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Actually be very interesting to see what the new BTCC cars will be. Gow said they will look a bit different, whatever he meant. After a very long time of NGTC regs, I'd be happy to see something slightly new and perhaps it's time for BTCC to go for something a bit more 'radical.' Hybrid, I guess, must remain, perhaps in a slightly different form but if BTCC doesn't want to fall into obscurity it needs to follow the global trends. I don't think they'll go for electric just yet although who knows actually.
Honestly, really curious about what cars they might go for. Saloons are almost non-existent and even hatches seem to slowly die - Focus being a great example. So either they go for crossovers/SUVs in the longer term, which seems rather unpalatable for racing or for some more obvious 'sporty' cars but I doubt BTCC is suited for the likes of Toyota Supra, Ford Mustang or BMW 4. |
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17 May 2024, 13:36 (Ref:4209287) | #3273 | ||
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I just hope they can revise or tone down the “fibreglass body kit look”.
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17 May 2024, 13:46 (Ref:4209289) | #3274 | |
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