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4 Jun 2009, 11:21 (Ref:2475284)
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Well I'm not saying he is looking for an excuse to leave, but I just think maybe he's worried about losing his fanbase here if he seemingly turns his back on them and goes to race overseas.
Maybe I just jumped to a conclusion. Far enough. But it just seem that Mr. Whincup these days has an opinion of almost everything, and most of his opinions are, IMHO, negative towards the category and the way it is run. Why the 'Sprint' tyre would get used at an 'endurance' race is beyond me. Did anyone else mention the possibility? Or is he just trying to get his name back in the headlines? |
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4 Jun 2009, 11:31 (Ref:2475291)
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4 Jun 2009, 11:35 (Ref:2475294)
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What difference do you think the Sprint tyre might have made to Brighty in '07? There are all sorts of reasons that they should open up the rules to let the Sprint tyres be used, say 6 tyres per meeting, use em when you want, must start the race on the tyres you qualified on, gives the crew chief/engineer extra options on the day!
How often did we hear from other current champions with (rolled out factory mush) tripe just cos they were the figure head. good to hear him speak what he thinks, provided thats what it is (also might get his name in the right places OS too remember). |
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4 Jun 2009, 11:57 (Ref:2475304)
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Since when has anyone listened to what Whincup says anyway? He speaks crap, needs to harden up a bit and stop trying to always play the nice guy, just coz Lowndes does it doesn't mean he has to..
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4 Jun 2009, 12:16 (Ref:2475309)
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What a load of ******** the sprint tyre is just another contrived way of mixing up the competition given its a parity series - for a viewer its dammed hard to follow also - just race and the better guy/team wins how hards that - Ive been following motor sport 2 & 4 wheels since the mid 60's and I just dont get it why you have to play with a category to make it interesting for TV look at Formula Ford its just pure racing and its exciting.
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4 Jun 2009, 12:30 (Ref:2475312)
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Then again, we do have a 3 tier, Top 10 shootout qualifying system for one race... And a 20 minute free-for-all for the other... |
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4 Jun 2009, 16:12 (Ref:2475413)
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i don't care if he ****s off or not but as stated above it's just journolism, it's what gets the punters in they only write the bits that sound good and the question is never writen in the article either, until i see it come from him without journolists putting words in his mouth i won't accuse him of having an alteria motive. if asked the question "if the soft tyre was used at the big events would you leave?" then he has probably just answered honestly and said what he did. however if he has said it and the question was only something like "should the soft tyre be used at the big events?" then it's just a childish comment to say and perhaps there was an alteria motive.
on the part of the soft tyre being kept from the big races i agree, the soft tyre is good for variety throughout the year but it dosn't have a place in the enduro's and the other big races. |
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5 Jun 2009, 01:16 (Ref:2475691)
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I think all the comments in the article come from the Race 8 press conference? I can't watch it again to see (being in NZ), but they seem familiar.
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5 Jun 2009, 02:47 (Ref:2475717)
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by my crude calcs, the sprint tyre would only be really effective for around 13-16 laps, so anyone using it may go for a quick advantage, but give themselves an extra stop. what would it be worth on a race lap around bathurst? 5-6 seconds?
mind you, it would be interesting to see, if it was used at the mountain, how many crews would save the quick rubber for a splash dash final 10 lap assault. food for thought, but id prefer to see it left out of the big race. |
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5 Jun 2009, 02:58 (Ref:2475720)
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But wouldn't it be great to chuck on a set when that last safety car comes with 10 to go? Lose track position but at 6 sec a lap it would almost be worth it...
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5 Jun 2009, 04:10 (Ref:2475736)
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 certainly bring everyone to the edge of their seat for the finish.like Brocky in the rain years ago ...GREAT STUFF!! Gloves off for Bathurst....and the Enduros...Yeah!. |
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5 Jun 2009, 07:58 (Ref:2475807)
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6 seconds a lap,, get a firm hold of yourself. That means could see asub 2minute lap. In your dreams.
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5 Jun 2009, 08:38 (Ref:2475829)
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5 Jun 2009, 09:18 (Ref:2475848)
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I think you'll find at Bathurst, if you were to go hell for leather around the top, 4-6 seconds per lap would be the target - However, in the October heat, for that gain I honestly reckon we'll see alot of incidents, alot of blown tyres and alot of drivers blowing gaskets.
Might be fun for a bit, but I'm sure we'd all hate to see our favourites gone by lap 60. The tyres effect I also think is negated a bit by weather - Symmons didn't yield as much as Winton, and I think as it heats up it will be alot more effective. So, if it is cold, I think it wont be as good as if it's hot. It may be a different kettle of fish per year. That said, if this is the future, then the drivers will need to blow a year to find the happy medium. |
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5 Jun 2009, 09:33 (Ref:2475859)
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But with 10/14 laps to go...??
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5 Jun 2009, 09:35 (Ref:2475861)
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Or a car near the back because of a poor day, straps on the soft tyres, with no fuel in the car, and goes about resetting the lap record to a level that would blow the existing laptimes away
I would doubt a car would do sub-2 minutes... even if the video games suggest it can be done  but it could be fun to see just how good the drivers could do.
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5 Jun 2009, 10:50 (Ref:2475894)
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Yep...It would be a kick for whoever aced the shot...and a real blast if it was one of the not so "highly rated" drivers...Wildcard stuff...
 it.Would make any driver and crews day I recon...  we'd hear some sooking afterwards...as usual.  He who dares wins...let em go for it! |
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5 Jun 2009, 12:10 (Ref:2475931)
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Haven't you watched the last few races at Bathurst? How much closer do you want the cars at the end of a 1000KM race? The finishes have had me on the edge of my seat without a sprint tyre in sight. |
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5 Jun 2009, 22:44 (Ref:2476242)
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fully agree ricky bobby. the last 3 at least have been awesome finishes, so close. except we were well past edge of set, we were standing up cheering.
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6 Jun 2009, 00:24 (Ref:2476274)
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6 Jun 2009, 00:54 (Ref:2476292)
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wasnt the intention to run a second to a second and a half quicker per minute, thus it would only be about 3 seconds a lap. and with the long straights it might even been less
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6 Jun 2009, 03:40 (Ref:2476321)
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Frosty says "and, uh" a lot as well...we should start a new thread on this!!!
All seriousness, JW is a great driver, bad personality. What is it about drivers winning championships/Bathurst's and turning into ********s? Is it all part of the success, or another one of "Fat Tony's" silly policies? |
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6 Jun 2009, 08:34 (Ref:2476376)
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Our friends on #7's V8XTRA seemed to take it seriously, Mr Noonan running a piece with footage taken directly from the conference in question.
A pity nobody has considered that the driver in question was pretty much a deer in the headlights, and really didnt have his usual 'automaton' responses to fire back. Where will he go? Is there room in NASCAR for him? Can the 888 connection get him a gig in the BTCC? Or is it all paper-talk? |
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6 Jun 2009, 08:46 (Ref:2476383)
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BTCC a step up? Don't reckon.
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