Official British Grand Prix: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Round 10 of 21 - Page 5

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 16:43 (Ref:3917620)

For what it's worth, Vettel went to apologize to Verstappen right away, even before Max got out of his car.

Akrapovic · 14 Jul 2019, 16:45 (Ref:3917621)

Max said those things to the Motorsport.com reporters. But he also said he could see things falling off the floor. Not sure how you can see your own floor when driving.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...crash/4495077/

steve nielsen · 14 Jul 2019, 16:48 (Ref:3917624)

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Originally Posted by gert

That's strange, on German TV after the race Max said there was basically *nothing wrong* with the car and that he was lucky it was still in one piece.

He certainly did not name ANY of the things you mentioned, just mentioned some dirt on the tires that went away after a lap or 2.

that says a lot about German TV

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...VA3TgXrJ2.html

Anyopenroad · 14 Jul 2019, 16:49 (Ref:3917625)

Did a mod go to quote my post and write 'bloody hero' and end up editing my post by mistake?

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Jul 2019, 16:54 (Ref:3917626)

Yes and I apologise. It was me.

That's the trouble with working on a phone. I obviously clicked edit instead of quote.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Jul 2019, 16:56 (Ref:3917628)

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Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

Did a mod go to quote my post and write 'bloody hero' and end up editing my post by mistake?

Not guilty. Though I am a mod, I can only edit on the IndyCar forum.

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 16:56 (Ref:3917629)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

that says a lot about German TV

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...VA3TgXrJ2.html

Or not. It was an interview with Max himself, not a second-hand quote or made-up story like you seem to suggest.

Anyopenroad · 14 Jul 2019, 17:02 (Ref:3917630)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Not guilty. Though I am a mod, I can only edit on the IndyCar forum.

It was Mr Mallett, obviously getting vertigo having navigated all the way up from the Historic Racing Today forum to the giddy heights of Formula 1

steve nielsen · 14 Jul 2019, 17:26 (Ref:3917633)

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Originally Posted by gert

Or not. It was an interview with Max himself, not a second-hand quote or made-up story like you seem to suggest.

But other media, including the official F1 site mentions the damage

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Originally Posted by formula1.com

“I honestly don't know how I brought that car to the finish,” said Verstappen. “My power steering failed, my seat was out, so all the time on the braking I was moving forward. In the high-speed corners I was moving left to right and then the car was really neutral. When I jumped out of the car the whole floor and rear was destroyed so [I'm] so happy to finish fifth.”

**Peter Mallett** · 14 Jul 2019, 17:34 (Ref:3917634)

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Originally Posted by Anyopenroad

It was Mr Mallett, obviously getting vertigo having navigated all the way up from the Historic Racing Today forum to the giddy heights of Formula 1

I hate you. But yes, my mistake.

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 17:34 (Ref:3917635)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

But other media, including the official F1 site mentions the damage

Maybe, but Max Vestappen himself denied there was anything basically wrong with his car when interviewed live. I think I rather believe the words from the man himself.

steve nielsen · 14 Jul 2019, 17:49 (Ref:3917637)

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Originally Posted by gert

Maybe, but Max Vestappen himself denied there was anything basically wrong with his car when interviewed live. I think I rather believe the words from the man himself.

why would he tell a different story to ALL other media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XaJ_G6Siz4

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 17:54 (Ref:3917639)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

why would he tell a different story to ALL other media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XaJ_G6Siz4

I don't know, do you?
Maybe he is a liar? Or maybe he realized that the damage wasn't as bad as he first thought it was, and gave more correct answers in the later interviews?

Your guess is probably as good as mine.

steve nielsen · 14 Jul 2019, 18:16 (Ref:3917642)

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Originally Posted by gert

I don't know, do you?
Maybe he is a liar? Or maybe he realized that the damage wasn't as bad as he first thought it was, and gave more correct answers in the later interviews?

Your guess is probably as good as mine.

or maybe you don't understand the German language very good?

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14...ite-incredible

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 18:22 (Ref:3917644)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

or maybe you don't understand the German language very good?

I do, better than Max can speak it. He used a few Dutch words because he didn't know the right German word at the time.

No problem, but that was just a bit funny.

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You can quote all English based journals you want, but that doesn't change a thing. Probably they are based on the same interview you already linked to (the Youtube one), so in fact that's just 1 source, not 2 or 3 or 33.

steve nielsen · 14 Jul 2019, 18:26 (Ref:3917645)

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Originally Posted by gert

I do, better than Max can speak it. He used a few Dutch word because he didn't know the right German word at the time.

.

now I know you're just talking BS, I know you don't like Max, but no need to make things up.

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 18:35 (Ref:3917646)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

now I know you're just talking BS, I know you don't like Max, but no need to make things up.

Who are you to judge if I can understand German or not?

And there's no need to call me a liar based on things you have a hard time believing.
I take offense at being accused like that.

Max did use a Dutch word because he didn't know the German word at that time.
There is nothing wrong with that. Since German and Dutch are closely related the German interviewer understood what he was trying to say, offered the correct German word, Max nodded, and rephrased what he had said now using the correct German word.

There's nothing wrong with that technique, it's used quite often if you are trying to explain something in a language that's not your own

**Aysedasi** · 14 Jul 2019, 18:46 (Ref:3917649)

Oh come on children......

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 18:52 (Ref:3917650)

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Oh come on children......

Sorry dad.

I just don't like to be falsely accused.

Back to the race: I think finally Kubica was quite close to Russell. Was that genuine, or did he too get a lucky break because of the safety car?
I think after Vettel's pitstop for the nose change, Kubica was only 7 seconds behind Russell.

djinvicta · 14 Jul 2019, 18:58 (Ref:3917651)

As I said at the start of this thread..Ferrari must be looking elsewhere for next year. Vettel appears to have "lost" any 4 times World Champ "stuff". Just retire mate..

steve nielsen · 14 Jul 2019, 19:23 (Ref:3917657)

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Originally Posted by gert

Sorry dad.

I just don't like to be falsely accused.

So how come Horner also says there was a lot of damage and he does not know how Max got that car to the finish?

and since your German is so good

https://www.motorsport-total.com/for...-ziel-19071417

steve_r · 14 Jul 2019, 19:26 (Ref:3917658)

From Crash . net

“The power steering more or less failed so it was quite a hard work out for me. The seat popped out so it was moving around a lot and the floor was quite badly damaged. The car was not what it should have been but of course still happy to be fifth.”

Dont know why people on here are arguing, or indeed what point either side were trying to make out of this. Suggest we move on to discussing who Ferrari should bring in as a replacement for the guy who caused yet another completely avoidable accident .

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 19:40 (Ref:3917662)

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Originally Posted by steve nielsen

So how come Horner also says there was a lot of damage and he does not know how Max got that car to the finish?

and since your German is so good

https://www.motorsport-total.com/for...-ziel-19071417

If you read back a few posts, it think it is clear that Aysedasi wanted us to stop. That is me AND you.
So, I'm going to ignore this.

I would appreciate though if you would not try to belittle what other poster's know, do or can.

gert · 14 Jul 2019, 19:44 (Ref:3917663)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

As I said at the start of this thread..Ferrari must be looking elsewhere for next year. Vettel appears to have "lost" any 4 times World Champ "stuff". Just retire mate..

Maybe a retirement is not necessary.
There's a lot of sense in what Akrapovic posted.

If it is a matter of confidence in car and pit crew, then maybe not all is lost.

Even with the crappy season he's got so far, he's still ahead of Leclerc.

There's still 10 more races to gain confidence.

A good performance in Germany and/or Monza can mean a lot of good.

Akrapovic · 14 Jul 2019, 19:57 (Ref:3917670)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

As I said at the start of this thread..Ferrari must be looking elsewhere for next year. Vettel appears to have "lost" any 4 times World Champ "stuff". Just retire mate..

Whilst this is true, Ferrari also need to look at the decisions they make. They got away with it because of Vettels accident, but a poor call (again) cost Leclerc.

Without Vettel we'd still be telling Ferrari to get it together. They will not beat Mercedes with calls like this.

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