V8 Supercars and beyond

FAS33 · 6 Oct 2012, 13:10 (Ref:3147072)

I like the fact that the V8's are changing as my Grandpa always says "Theres nothing as permenant as change" or something like that.

with the COTF and 4 Manufacturers going on in 2013. (gonna miss the Red Vs Blue fights though) This sport is gonna evolve and I guess that's why people don't like the way it's heading, cause Group A/B/C/D is gone and they missed the Variety of cars and the fact that some makes perform better at certain places then others. But I always wondered ....I don't see people in the stands flying a Mercedes Flag in the future. will this Series turn into NASCAR type racing in the long run?

one five five · 6 Oct 2012, 14:14 (Ref:3147101)

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(gonna miss the Red Vs Blue fights though)

Why would Red vs Blue go anywhere?

the Ford vs Holden battle was born with plenty of other cars in the races... hell when the 'legend' was born the cars fighting for victory were the "big three" - Ford, Holden & Chrysler/Valiant

The Holden vs Ford battle will continue as passionatly as ever, there will just be some other shapes in the races too as there was in the past

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But I always wondered ....I don't see people in the stands flying a Mercedes Flag in the future. will this Series turn into NASCAR type racing in the long run?

NASCAR type racing is exactly what V8Supercars have been aiming for since the 'entertainers' took the reigns isn't it??

Nissan had a sort of cult following during their initial spell in local touring car racing from 1981-1992, you did see Nissan & BMW flags getting waved about

FAS33 · 6 Oct 2012, 14:25 (Ref:3147106)

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Why would Red vs Blue go anywhere?

the Ford vs Holden battle was born with plenty of other cars in the races... hell when the 'legend' was born the cars fighting for victory were the "big three" - Ford, Holden & Chrysler/Valiant

The Holden vs Ford battle will continue as passionatly as ever, there will just be some other shapes in the races too as there was in the past

NASCAR type racing is exactly what V8Supercars have been aiming for since the 'entertainers' took the reigns isn't it??

Nissan had a sort of cult following during their initial spell in local touring car racing from 1981-1992, you did see Nissan & BMW flags getting waved about

yes and look at it now, 50 years on we still have Bathurst, the racing is awesome and close and the Channel 7 coverage is ok. I think the whole event is what makes racing. just hope it doesn't turn into Nascar where they put bodyshapes on them and make them look nothing like their stock versions.

MagVanisher · 6 Oct 2012, 16:30 (Ref:3147131)

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yes and look at it now, 50 years on we still have Bathurst, the racing is awesome and close and the Channel 7 coverage is ok. I think the whole event is what makes racing. just hope it doesn't turn into Nascar where they put bodyshapes on them and make them look nothing like their stock versions.

And worse, have an oval course round where they turn right and ad infinitum.

If they're heading in that direction, why can't they cooperate with NASCAR?

one five five · 7 Oct 2012, 08:49 (Ref:3147476)

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yes and look at it now, 50 years on we still have Bathurst, the racing is awesome and close and the Channel 7 coverage is ok. I think the whole event is what makes racing. just hope it doesn't turn into Nascar where they put bodyshapes on them and make them look nothing like their stock versions.

the 'entertainers' only got control in 1997

next year we will have an exact NASCAR formula effectively, everything the same bar the engine and bodyshell....disgusting

STEALTHY · 7 Oct 2012, 09:26 (Ref:3147495)

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(gonna miss the Red Vs Blue fights though)

Whilst red vs blue may be gone, red vs blue vs black vs silver will be born

FAS33 · 7 Oct 2012, 09:54 (Ref:3147506)

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the 'entertainers' only got control in 1997

next year we will have an exact NASCAR formula effectively, everything the same bar the engine and bodyshell....disgusting

thats what I dont like about it and the way COTF program is going (if thats where it's going) cause really the new manufacturers are gonna have the same specifications stuffed into the cars but gonna be on different badges, the only plus I see out of it is that the cars are gonna be faster. gonna see some new lap records next year

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Whilst red vs blue may be gone, red vs blue vs black vs silver will be born

NASCAR grid much?

STEALTHY · 7 Oct 2012, 10:06 (Ref:3147508)

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NASCAR grid much?

Exactly

socram · 7 Oct 2012, 19:19 (Ref:3147779)

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And worse, have an oval course round where they turn right and ad infinitum.

Don't they turn left?

**Woolley** · 7 Oct 2012, 21:30 (Ref:3147854)

Only because they're LH drive, whereas Australia drives on the proper side of the road.

Matt · 8 Oct 2012, 03:33 (Ref:3147983)

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And worse, have an oval course round where they turn right and ad infinitum.

If they're heading in that direction, why can't they cooperate with NASCAR?

How would it be worse?

Oval race with them would probably be pretty damn exciting.

formerf1champ · 8 Oct 2012, 11:50 (Ref:3148164)

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And worse, have an oval course round where they turn right and ad infinitum.

We used to have that. Auscar racing, at Calder Park.

FAS33 · 8 Oct 2012, 14:31 (Ref:3148257)

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We used to have that. Auscar racing, at Calder Park.

lol that would've been fun to watch..

Denosaur · 8 Oct 2012, 22:46 (Ref:3148536)

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lol that would've been fun to watch..

It was, especially the support categories that ran on there......

I think some of you guys are reading into this too much. I doubt they'll ever race on ovals and sooner or later we'll probably be back to 2 manufacturers. Probably 3 sooner......

I've got nothing to do with the sport, but in my opinion this is a shot in arm that the series needs, mix things up for a bit. Hopefully the COTF levels the field up a bit, but we all know that powerhouse teams usually stay strong.

Razor · 9 Oct 2012, 05:10 (Ref:3148655)

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.....will this Series turn into NASCAR type racing in the long run?

I remember talking to someone at length at Queensland Raceway about the future of the sport when Triple Eight had their COTF car on display and I quipped that the sport will be heading down the direction of DTM (German Touring Car Masters) rather than NASCAR which the Triple Eight PR person was saying. The guy and the PR person agreed that the series would be following down the path of DTM rather than NASCAR.

Also if you look at the current DTM car and COTF, there isn't that much difference.

formerf1champ · 9 Oct 2012, 07:26 (Ref:3148681)

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lol that would've been fun to watch..

Except for the Brad Jones winning everything part, yep.

one five five · 9 Oct 2012, 08:16 (Ref:3148695)

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lol that would've been fun to watch..

Watch for yourself and judge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPqFLGUZ0dw

FAS33 · 9 Oct 2012, 14:32 (Ref:3148858)

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I remember talking to someone at length at Queensland Raceway about the future of the sport when Triple Eight had their COTF car on display and I quipped that the sport will be heading down the direction of DTM (German Touring Car Masters) rather than NASCAR which the Triple Eight PR person was saying. The guy and the PR person agreed that the series would be following down the path of DTM rather than NASCAR.

Also if you look at the current DTM car and COTF, there isn't that much difference.

DTM to me is not that very exciting, they have so many rules about every little thing. they got cars that look further away from their stock represented cars as the years go by...yes the cars are fast and agile, but there's not alot of overtaking, or as much action and eventful as a race in V8's. And I definatly dont wanna see them turn into NASCAR with the body shapes on them and the weird rules they got runnin.

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Watch for yourself and judge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPqFLGUZ0dw

Didn't even know this existed, was pretty cool. I dont normally like oval racing, But that I can bear with.

St00ge · 9 Oct 2012, 17:13 (Ref:3148929)

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Originally Posted by Razor

I remember talking to someone at length at Queensland Raceway about the future of the sport when Triple Eight had their COTF car on display and I quipped that the sport will be heading down the direction of DTM (German Touring Car Masters) rather than NASCAR which the Triple Eight PR person was saying. The guy and the PR person agreed that the series would be following down the path of DTM rather than NASCAR.

Also if you look at the current DTM car and COTF, there isn't that much difference.

Oh yeah the carbon fiber tubbed single seater chassis with carbon body with slightly less aero than a f1 that is the current DTM car is just like our v8 COTF..... If you mean they share the same idea of common chassis and parts across the different makes then yeah alright I get where you're coming from...

Scooter185 · 9 Oct 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3149011)

I'm hoping that with the race here in the states next May, the series can get more US fans and bring the fight to nascar. Especially after the race at Dega, lots of unhappy drivers and fans.

Axeman444 · 9 Oct 2012, 22:07 (Ref:3149082)

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And I definatly dont wanna see them turn into NASCAR with the body shapes on them and the weird rules they got runnin.

since when are there rules in NASCAR?

Average Punter · 10 Oct 2012, 11:15 (Ref:3149345)

Can't wait for the stunned silence when some nuffy commentator yells at the crowd "are there any Mercedes fans here???............"

peckstar · 10 Oct 2012, 11:31 (Ref:3149353)

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Can't wait for the stunned silence when some nuffy commentator yells at the crowd "are there any Mercedes fans here???............"

Agreed. It did get a bit repetitive on the weekend

MagVanisher · 10 Oct 2012, 17:22 (Ref:3149537)

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Agreed. It did get a bit repetitive on the weekend

Hmm, needs some Yellow... like Renault.

**FIRE** · 10 Oct 2012, 17:38 (Ref:3149550)

Nissan is owned by Renault

I would like to see BMW with the 5-series.