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11 Nov 2003, 02:02 (Ref:779400)
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Steve Masterton
Can anyone tell me what ever happened to Steve Masterton?
He used to run a great looking XE Falcon back in the Group C days. I know Jim Masterton (Masterton Homes) started to sponsor Western Suburbs in the NSWRL comp. Is this the reason that the team folded? Does anyone know?.....Does anyone care?..... |
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11 Nov 2003, 05:38 (Ref:779492)
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no idea what happened to him but I do know he made a return in a Ford Sierra 2 litre car at bathurst in 93 partnered by Kevin Weeks I believe, it was dayglo orange and looked pretty good.
other than that I have no idea. |
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11 Nov 2003, 06:56 (Ref:779524)
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He made a couple of returns actually; after the end of Group C, he ran a Commodore for one season before pulling the plug; he then popped up in Murray Carter's Skyline for Bathurst in 1987, running with Murray again the next year; in 1990, he ran a Falcon in the Australian Production Car Championship. I think business commitments forced him out of the driver's seat several times during his career. Is he still with the family business?
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11 Nov 2003, 07:11 (Ref:779531)
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Yep remember the flap that automatically opened on his Group C Falcon air intake at an Amaroo meeting and he got pinged for it!!!
His car was mentioned in Australian Muscle Car recently. Last edited by Grimace; 11 Nov 2003 at 07:15. |
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11 Nov 2003, 07:13 (Ref:779532)
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My ex sister in law went to school with him and then worked in the bank where they bank but as i don't see them any more i can't get any updates. He at one stage set up a race car preparation shop but i don't know what happened to that either.
As for the ex Group C Falcon, it has been bought by the ex mechanic for the car (i think) and is currently being restored. |
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11 Nov 2003, 07:30 (Ref:779538)
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Checking the Masterton Homes web site, Steve is listed as quality manager.
http://www.masterton.com.au/masterto...s.body&FFFF117 |
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11 Nov 2003, 08:41 (Ref:779572)
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There was a Steve Masterton Racing that operated out of a premises at Warwick Farm/Moorebank, near Peter Warren Ford, who sponsored Steve's return to competition in the proddie car. (And supplied the trade plates for the seriously old and tired transporter to get around!)
Steve's codriver in that Sierra was Mondeo longtooth (and Cirtek frontman) Peter Hills, who actually bought/owned the car at the time. There was quite a bit of speed in the driver on occassion, I sometimes doubted the preparation was as good as the budget may have allowed. Had Steve been in a Commodore, the results would likely have been substantially better... pioneering isnt always rewarding |
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11 Nov 2003, 08:54 (Ref:779580)
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He was in the news just recently (ACA) Masterton homes was doing a major repair job on a house in Sydney for free . The home owners were caught out with a shoddy builder and Masterman Homes came to the rescue .
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11 Nov 2003, 09:35 (Ref:779618)
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There's a difference between Masterton Homes and Masterman Homes.
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11 Nov 2003, 11:35 (Ref:779705)
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Basically the Masterton Homes/2WS team folded because Jim stopped footing the bill. They had spent a heap of money on the XE Falcon, then when Group A came along, they waited and finally plumped for a Commodore (possibly the first HDT customer VK built?). Of course the Group A costs were high to stay competitive, and with tough times for the building industry, it didn't make financial sense to continue. (as mentioned in the current Australian Muscle Car, that is also the reason they sold the XE). A pity, he did show potential. |
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11 Nov 2003, 12:30 (Ref:779730)
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That Group A Commodore was well..... everything that possibly could have gone wrong did. One of motor racing's lemon cars, and that probably killed the team as much as anything. Maybe a good result or two might have fired the imagination, but when a team is demoralised...
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12 Nov 2003, 01:13 (Ref:780505)
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I remember seeing the Group A Commodore at Bathurst - it was so slow!
From what I've been told this car was sold onto Geissler who managed to finish 10th at Bathurst in '86. The Commodore still exists, respendent now in its original Masterton livery and I last saw it compete in combined Group A and C races in Historics last year. I can't remember the guy who owns it and can barely afford to run it, but he crashed into his mate's ex-Cullen VK Commodore at Wakefield Park damaging both cars. They both got onto the grog that night, with both bent cars sitting up next to the bungalow accomodation at the track - without having been through post-scrutineering .... |
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12 Nov 2003, 02:00 (Ref:780532)
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You may also recall his winged keel to get a little extra rear d/f!! The story in AMC on the XE was interesting, most of the car is still there and it will be restored, it also revealed how they developed a 'secret' quick change front end, it would be nice to see this car back on the track again. I was talking to someone who knew the Mastertons and he said that Steve and his old man at one point had a falling out? |
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12 Nov 2003, 02:17 (Ref:780542)
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Was Steve Australia's first racing SORF?
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Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003 “I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions “Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men “Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House
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12 Nov 2003, 02:25 (Ref:780545)
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Steve brought Carol Smith (1977 Bathurst 1-2) fame to work on the XE at Bathurst in 1982. The car didn't perform as well as the Capris they had been running in 1981. When the 1981 Bathurst 747 was stopped,they were well placed in the top 10.
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12 Nov 2003, 02:31 (Ref:780548)
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13 Nov 2003, 09:45 (Ref:781835)
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Yes there certainly is, My sister worked for Masterman homes for a shortwhile a few years back and at the time she told me of the contract I thought she meant steves company but she set me straight. As for Steve, one of my neighbours is from Moorebank in Sydney and has mentioned him in a motorsport conversation, when they get back from Fiji, Ill ask him if he knows what steve is up to. |
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13 Nov 2003, 22:20 (Ref:782549)
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I think Masterton had it solved in the end, his last two races in the XE at Bathurst and Surfers Paradise were two of his best performances in that car, unfortunately other components let him down on those days. CD. |
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14 Nov 2003, 02:04 (Ref:782735)
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Seems a fairly obvious trick when you think about it, I believe this was common practice on Falcon power steering pumps to increase feel too.
In the latest AMC, DJ talks about how he would improve the Greens Tuf Falcon, and he said he would use the same rollcage setup as Masterton which was welded. Its a pity there wern't more resources behind this team as they where quite innovative and I recall him being at least as quick as DJ at times. |
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15 Sep 2013, 12:45 (Ref:3304217)
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The guy that did a lot of the engineering work on that car is John Skola.He now owns the XE.John is a VERY smart man.He and his brother,Dave,set-up a business called Skola Race Developments/Engines,which has now been closed,because as John told me,"Nobody wants to pay for good work".The flow bench and all the machinery is now packed away.The Skola brothers now work for a salvage company in Ingleburn,Sydney.There is currently a few YouTube videos of John Skola doing some one-off fabrication work for a custom Nissan RB26 turbo manifold.Also,a few pictures,on some another site,of a hand fabricated V8 manifold that truely is something special.[google,"bunch of bums" manifold and it will take you to the site that has the pictures].
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24 Sep 2013, 21:27 (Ref:3308919)
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John Skola is a genius. Having been fortunate to spend some time in his workshop in the mid 90's I saw some amazing things. Sheet metal manifolds that defy description (not the bunch of bums pictured below but other equally amazing things), cutting and shutting cylinder heads to get better runner approach angles for classes of racing where stock heads had to be used (who'd know people are that keen?), and all manner or other things that simply blew my mind.
I wish I had a project worth of having his input to tell you the truth, a truly amazing person who doesn't think within the square most of us live in. The said "bunch of bums".  |
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19 Feb 2015, 11:39 (Ref:3506611)
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Yeah,that's the "bunch of bums".
These days it would probably be called " The Tummy Sticks" manifold. |
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24 May 2015, 05:25 (Ref:3540545)
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.....or the Assassin Manifold.
(Ass-Ass-In) |
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8 May 2018, 22:15 (Ref:3820914)
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Steve venting his frustrations with his XE, in the 1984 Surfers enduro race:
https://youtu.be/g8qdXiaTnLk?t=15m51s |
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