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Old 9 Sep 2021, 19:22 (Ref:4072855)   #271
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Could you kindly be less cryptic because I honestly can't understand what you mean on both your considerations, and btw I'm not interested in f1 madness, I wrote that about mercedes just because there are still people thinking mercedes is still winning nowadays because of that 2013 test, as I think is unreasonable for the same reasons about oreca winning today because of 05.
So you make an argument you don't understand to make a point that misses entirely why Oreca has more development.

I'll write it in big leaders so you get it.

ORECA HAS A BETTER BASE CAR BECAUSE REBELLION FUNDED THE DEVELOPMENT. Oh, that's also why the Kolles car didn't lead to a better car, they didn't have the money to spend.

Oh and no one but idiots who don't understand F1 EVER thought the tire test was anything but a MAYBE boost for a race or 2. So maybe limit your attempts at comebacks to things you actually know anything about, you'll look far less foolish
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Old 9 Sep 2021, 19:49 (Ref:4072858)   #272
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So you make an argument you don't understand to make a point that misses entirely why Oreca has more development.

I'll write it in big leaders so you get it.

ORECA HAS A BETTER BASE CAR BECAUSE REBELLION FUNDED THE DEVELOPMENT. Oh, that's also why the Kolles car didn't lead to a better car, they didn't have the money to spend.

Oh and no one but idiots who don't understand F1 EVER thought the tire test was anything but a MAYBE boost for a race or 2. So maybe limit your attempts at comebacks to things you actually know anything about, you'll look far less foolish


First of all, it's not if you write something uppercase, what you have written, gets automatically more importance... second thing, rebellion hired oreca to design their car because they couldn't run anymore their lola, oreca did that and from the same concept were born R-one and 05.
The fact rebellion hired oreca and not other chassis manufacturers, means that oreca was the best even 10 years ago.
Here I'm arguing about the fact that according to someone, running a lmp2 made on 2014 lmp1 specs was an "unfair advantage", thing that revealed to be untrue.
I don't even answer you about f1 because it's clearly you the one who doesn't know what is talking about, but it's not that the problem... honestly how dare you to write to me that way? Are we maybe mate or else? I'm refuting and arguing about opinions, I don't attack the person who expressed the opinions as you're doing. So, oreca or not oreca, accept my advice, If you're looking for someone to flame off with, go on reddit or some other forum with people who is used to your same "elegance". I'm too smart to be involved in your childish games.
Can't recall I was ever been impressed by some posts of yours, so guess I won't lose anything of important now I inaugurated my ignore list with your username. Bye.
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Old 13 Sep 2021, 13:13 (Ref:4073624)   #273
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Well marketing won the day and the concept design sold to the budget creators was published.

"Despite that the released render depicted the car wingless, similar to the Peugeot 9X8 Le Mans Hypercar, Klauser confirmed its LMDh car will run with a traditional rear wing.

“We need to have a rear wing per the regulations,” she said.

“What we wanted to share with everybody was the vision. That was one of the very early renderings that sold the program in the company and got us excited about it.

“It was too cool not to share. I think you’ll see as announcements continue to come and if we have visuals, you’ll see the car evolving into where it’s going to be when it hits the pavement.""


And sounds like we will see the usual suspects and JDC Miller might be left out in the cold "Klauser said she “can’t comment one way or another” on the possibility of additional teams joining the Cadillac fray alongside the already-announced Chip Ganassi Racing and Action Express Racing but has essentially ruled out customer cars for the at least the first year of the program."


From S365, https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...cadillac-lmdh/
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Old 21 Dec 2021, 16:23 (Ref:4090861)   #274
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BMW series on development of the lmdh is available for viewing. I watched some of episode 3 and they showed the drivers the actually design of the car. They showed us a render which according to the drivers reaction is different from the actual design.

Also lots of behind the scenes Petit footage.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/...hronicled.html
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Old 21 Dec 2021, 16:27 (Ref:4090863)   #275
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BMW series on development of the lmdh is available for viewing. I watched some of episode 3 and they showed the drivers the actually design of the car. They showed us a render which according to the drivers reaction is different from the actual design.

Also lots of behind the scenes Petit footage.

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2021/...hronicled.html
Sounds interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 17:04 (Ref:4093754)   #276
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Oh boy!! Porsche with a tease.

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Old 14 Jan 2022, 17:11 (Ref:4093756)   #277
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And as soon as I posted that video above....

Full body shot and shakedown report from S365!

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...Vm8pSXOum-Gyow

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And as soon as I posted that video above....

Full body shot and shakedown report from S365!

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...Vm8pSXOum-Gyow

First shot of an LMDh! Looks pretty good. Can't wait to see how different the Audi looks.
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Basically LMDh looks more or less like LMP1 before the bulbous front ends came in vogue. Lola-Aston could easily pass for an LMDh.
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Old 14 Jan 2022, 19:34 (Ref:4093771)   #280
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Basically LMDh looks more or less like LMP1 before the bulbous front ends came in vogue. Lola-Aston could easily pass for an LMDh.
Don't know, just from this short clip you can tell how "bigger" this lmdh look, it seems the increased length to 5m helps a lot to make these cars more distinctive. Lmp2 cars (and old lmp1 as well having same size) look cool on TV but if you watch them in real life they look so tiny... almost like toys if placed close to a GTE car.
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Basically LMDh looks more or less like LMP1 before the bulbous front ends came in vogue. Lola-Aston could easily pass for an LMDh.
The lola Aston was the original dpi. Manufacturer shaped grill, production related engine. Done and done!
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One other thing I've noticed and I'm not sure what the rules say about this, but the splitter leading edge is not straight in plan view, unlike with every LMP/DPi car. This is another thing that made LMPs unattractive and blunt looking. This one is curved. Those following Formula1 will know that as of 2017 the F1 regs mandated that front wing's leading edge must have a particular < shape in plan view, instead of the traditional [ which simply maximised the bodywork within the allowed "box".
This Porsche is not quite a < but more of a (
Subtle change, but not unimportant, especially for those watching on TV.

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Don't know, just from this short clip you can tell how "bigger" this lmdh look, it seems the increased length to 5m helps a lot to make these cars more distinctive. Lmp2 cars (and old lmp1 as well having same size) look cool on TV but if you watch them in real life they look so tiny... almost like toys if placed close to a GTE car.
I only stood (and touched, rather gleefully!) next to an old 908 and the early Penske RS-Spyder (the one with huge lights). They didn't feel tiny. Perhaps because because of how low they were, especially the Porsche, they seemed imposingly long and wide.
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One other thing I've noticed and I'm not sure what the rules say about this, but the splitter leading edge is not straight in plan view, unlike with every LMP/DPi car. This is another thing that made LMPs unattractive and blunt looking. This one is curved. Those following Formula1 will know that as of 2017 the F1 regs mandated that front wing's leading edge must have a particular < shape in plan view, instead of the traditional [ which simply maximised the bodywork within the allowed "box".
This Porsche is not quite a < but more of a (
Subtle change, but not unimportant, especially for those watching on TV.


I only stood (and touched, rather gleefully!) next to an old 908 and the early Penske RS-Spyder (the one with huge lights). They didn't feel tiny. Perhaps because because of how low they were, especially the Porsche, they seemed imposingly long and wide.
If memory helps me, both 908 and rs spyder had same size 4650mm x 2000mm while oreca 07 is slightly longer and 1900mm wide...
they look quite tiny when you see a lmp2 next to a GTE car
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Love seeing the Porsche out for the first time. Certainly something to look forward to when it is finally ready to race
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