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They also found water in the oil - surprised they didn't hand out a penalty for that as well. Supercars is the game, and the prizes are the Championship, Bathurst and the Teams' Championship. DJRTP are playing, and have won 2 out of 3 of those prizes so far this year. |
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I sure Forda is a DJRTP employee, going by his unwaivering denial they have done any wrong, even in the face of the teams' own admission of guilt, and lack of appeals.
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The main thing DJRTP have done "wrong" here is break the once-perpetual Holden/888 cycle.
Seems to make people froth at the mouth, some more than others. Including Ryan Walkinshaw, who has now been exposed for sending hate messages to Scotty via text. |
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Frothing at the mouth, have a look in the mirror. It is interesting when people get into protracted arguments such as this with nothing more than fandom zeal and no true knowledge of what makes a racing car tick. Everyone but you can see what happened, why is that? You remind me of a politician that will talk for a week on anything bar the facts of the matter.
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You're simply proving the point with your rant.
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Stop crying. Everyone cheats
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Hardly surprising someone has finally had a go at him to his face, if it’s even true. As for calling his team cheats, I think that is something that is now well and truly considered fact ever since bathurst... |
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Bathurst just confirmed beyond all reasonable doubt they are cheats. After the drop-gear incident and the rear wing angle incident, everyone has been looking at them sideways ever since then. It was a matter of when they got caught, not if. Penske also has a long track record of cheating in the US, so not sure why some people would think he would operate differently in Australia?
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A 20 second SC buffer is considered okay, wink-wink.
888 have proved that to be the case in the past. The Dude reckoned getting away with that was somewhat reasonable. But running that out a further 27 seconds = $250k / 300 points. Quote:
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Pretty disgraceful behaviour, even more so when it comes directly from a team owner. But possibly born out of spite - Scotty turned down an offer to join WAU a few years back. Obviously he didn't have rocks in his head. |
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Almost as if he is losing friends up and down pitlane due to his behaviour. Also from who I have asked in pitlane the story is that RW said something along the lines of them pitlane is toxic towards you guys because of your team’s cheating’. I also hear he was by far not the only person in pitlane who took great and understandable offence to Scott public insult of his peers. I actually think that’s a fair thing to call someone up on. Scott brought it upon himself. |
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Personally, I think DJRTP were lucky to get away with the penalty they did. I haven't seen this, have a link to share? |
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Scotty called pit lane 'toxic' only recently, and not "for several months now" as you originally stated. And calling them 'toxic' seems to have occurred after people like Ryan Walkinshaw insulted him, due to a minute tolerance issue found in Car 17's engine, which was stuffed. Scotty didn't cheat; he didn't build the engine, it's not his responsibility to check for component tolerance variations which are smaller than the width of a human hair. There's some lowlifes out there, and in this case, some have ulterior motives. |
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As for the time of the alleged message exchange between RW and SM that was a few days after Sandown from what I gather. But who knows. I suspect there’s a lot to be said for most people in Supercars all getting along well with one another, including RW, and only one driver who seems to consistently drive a wedge between people, SM. Just saying. Just to be clear I like SM and don’t fall into the Holden vs Ford crap, but I also like to tell it like it is. I know a lot of people in Supercars who have told me they were deeply insulted by SM calling them all toxic. |
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No link, it’s a claim made by Steven Johnson on his podcast who from what I’ve heard has over exaggerated the gravity of the message exchange whilst also ignoring what Scott may have been saying to RW. Remember there are generally two Sides to every story...
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Better still, the engine builders can then apply the "new" tolerances to an odd number of valves to do nothing to enhance their performance.
Why would you stop there? How about we switch it up and build engines with various infinite different spec of clearance throughout the engine just so we have some rubbish to trawl through. |
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It's interesting to note comments by Supercars engine builders that a shagged engine with worn valve train will basically never measure lift over, always under. So I wonder how many of the measurements were over when the engine was built.
And Supercars engines are sealed by certified engine builder, they are never measured by Supercars at that point. |
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Nope. Only after.
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