Goodwood 78th Members' Meeting

[Gerard C]

Are you checking the LC's? C'on!

[zefarelly]

LC's bâillement Haven't seen a real one for years

I just pop in to see if there's anything interesting, like a proper old race car

[zefarelly]

Not a huge amount of cars there TBH . . .

No idea why they're upside down.

[justracing]

A couple of beautiful formula juniors run by Simon Diffey, Mike Whittaker 4 wheel drifting through the chicane in the Capri, Bastos Camero thundering round, very sweet Lotus Elite and an even sweeter Elva undergoing a gearbox change plus an enormous Hudson with rear brakes only, what's not to like! Plus free viewing!

[smokystove]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

I'm taking my MGB I'm not running in the MM this year. But will be good to meet up.

Sorry for OT but sadly with the current state of travel here in Europe I don't think I'll be making it over there Peter. Have a great day out.

[chunterer]

Begging question...

Surely this will join the scrapheap of cancellations?

[Peter Mallett]

Not currently. Just received an update which reflects the current government guidelines.

[Moneyseeker]

UK government set to announce ban on large scale public events (believed to be more than 500 people) from next weekend.

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[Peter Mallett]

Yup. They said they would be flexible to this so we wait and see what GW do.

[delta]

Snetterton should go ahead then . Normally only get 3 spectators . Guess the marshalls will have to separate them .

[dwh43scale]

Originally Posted by delta

Snetterton should go ahead then . Normally only get 3 spectators . Guess the marshalls will have to separate them .

4 ! I'm planning to come across this year. Will keep a reasonable distance from other snappers.

Will be interested to see what Goodwood do having mucked up communicating the original date (due to the Vietnamese GP) - full refunds and trebles all round, chaps ? !

[Rudernst]

Goodwood have sent out an email yesterday to competitors that reads as "business as usual" suggesting the meeting will go ahead as planned.

It contains some weak action items about hand sanitising......

I cant see how this will go ahead.
At this point in time, Germany had 8 deaths ascribed to Coronavirus so far. UK has 11 in a smaller population
In Germany 12 of 18 states have closed schools and kindergartens for 2 weeks, more states will chime in
Bundesliga has cancelled completely
Gathering of over 1.000 persons have been outlawed in Germany
Some areas now require a permit for gatherings of more then 50 persons
In Hamburg all theatres have closed,
Restaurant and bar closures are beeing discussed

And in this world Goodwod suggests that hand sanitizing will make a difference and that an event of 10.000 participants will go ahead

I understand that they are concerned about the commercial impact of a cancellation or postponement and that to them the fine print sets out what they feel they can do and what can not be done at what point in time

It probably makes a huge difference to be ordered by the government to shutdown as opposed to voluntarily do it

Buuuut, the earlier we know as competitors the less costly and akward this is going to be. Worst case scenario for me is to fly in, prepare the car, bring the crew only to be turned back at signing on
More or less what F1 have done in Australia, resulting in a lot of egg on a lot of faces
Maximum cost incurred for no play
Icing on the cake then would be getting stranded at Heathrow by some sort of shutdown

Personally, i am not scared, just pragmatic

RuE

[Mike Bell]

I think they’re trying to do a ‘Cheltenham Festival’, but of course everything is changing daily, and my gut feeling is that the event won’t go ahead.

I’d be delighted to be proved wrong, though.

[Rudernst]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I think they’re trying to do a ‘Cheltenham Festival’, but of course everything is changing daily, and my gut feeling is that the event won’t go ahead.

I’d be delighted to be proved wrong, though.

Pls explain the "Cheltenham" remark to Jonny Foreigner...

RuE

[dwh43scale]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I think they’re trying to do a ‘Cheltenham Festival’, but of course everything is changing daily, and my gut feeling is that the event won’t go ahead.

I’d be delighted to be proved wrong, though.

Not in the UK at the moment and somewhat surprised to see Cheltenham go ahead. There's "mad dogs and Englishmen" and then there's ...

However, seeing the mess F1 made of their cancellation, agree - make a decision early so everyone can change arrangements / minimise cost. Personally only committed for ticket price this year but many will have committed / paid out a significant amount.

[Rudernst]

Will go for a motorbike ride now, all my bikes tested negative, even the Ducati, so completely safe.

RuE

[Peter Mallett]

Rudi, Cheltrnham Festival is the biggest for day horse racing festival in the UK. Attracts around 60k per day. It went ahead this week. I was also surprised.

Yes I've committed serious money for tickets to the MM since I'm not racing. But, I fully expect it to be cancelled. They do need to make a timely decision though and frankly nothing is going to improve in two weeks.

[Rudernst]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Rudi, Cheltrnham Festival is the biggest for day horse racing festival in the UK. Attracts around 60k per day. It went ahead this week. I was also surprised.

Yes I've committed serious money for tickets to the MM since I'm not racing. But, I fully expect it to be cancelled. They do need to make a timely decision though and frankly nothing is going to improve in two weeks.

Ah.....
The German term for this is:
"Augen zu und durch !"
translates to
"Just close Your eyes an drive through it"
And yes, its straight out of: "The golden book of sound advice"

I have comitted to an extensive car rebuild, especially for the MM
Well, at least I have a great car now

RuE

[Peter Mallett]

Yes we can take some positives from this.

[Moneyseeker]

I imagine Goodwood sent that out following the UK government position on Monday that they had no plans (currently) to ban publc gatherings, but accroding to today's news that has changed and legislation to bring in the ban will be brought before parliament this week, effective next weekend.

So Goodwood caught out by the reported change in government positon. TOCA made the same sort of announcement yesterday based on the government advice on Thursday.

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[Peter Mallett]

MSUK and all other organisations are basically saying the same thing.

[deley]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

MSUK and all other organisations are basically saying the same thing.

Which is all likely to change given the reports of a shift in Government position towards banning certain types of "events" ....

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[Peter Mallett]

Yes I agree. Although I would have hoped that the organisers would take the decision without government announcements.

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Yes I agree. Although I would have hoped that the organisers would take the decision without government announcements.

Maybe insurance considerations have some effect here. If an organiser cancels of its own free will insurance may not cover costs. If it's a government directive they may be covered.

[Peter Mallett]

Yes I understand that. The problem is that punters don't.